ZK Paris: Kobi Gurkan - Can’t We All Just Get Along
4 Aug 2023 · 11:21
Cryptography researcher Kobi Gurkan, a regular co-host of the Zero Knowledge podcast, delivers a talk titled Can't We All Just Get Along, recorded at the zkParis event and presented by Geometry and ZKValidator. As the title suggests, the talk takes up fragmentation and collaboration across the zero-knowledge proofs ecosystem, weighing where competing teams and proving systems could work together rather than duplicate effort.
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okay this works all right so I've come with a message of friendship but first we have to Define what an L2 is no not really because this is going to cause a lot of fights here so we're not going to do that but the blockchain and crypto landscape has changed very significantly in the last decade like those of us who were here then we've seen that you know we've only had Bitcoin back then and it was really easy to no think about a single application think about okay and transferring money that's all I can do
and now we have a lot of other things we can do so but I have to reveal something and most of you have not seen me in real life for the last few years and that's because I've spent a lot of time in the future 2024. and I've seen how the future looks like and it looks like this like this is amazing this is how the future looks like and that's because we know how to work together next year and let me show you what I've seen and how we actually manage to interoperate and create a Wonderful
World so this is Alice and Alice wants to be the best engine player and she's a big fan of Dark Forest but she just started out and she only has a hundred power level but she really wants to be the best one so she wants to conquer a planet in Dark Forest that is has a thousand power level so in order to do that she has to acquire more power she has to acquire more planets and all these seats on Dark Forest that runs on noz's chain so let's see how she does that so first of all she finds a Marketplace
on scroll you know scroll is ZK AVM so you can run any Marketplace any decks you want on it so that's useful and she finds a Marketplace that has a power a planet with a power level of 100 so that's good but in 2024 these marketplaces have some kyc procedures in place so she first has to prove that she can use that Marketplace so she uses sismo in order to show what is our GitHub activity and she uses Persona labs in order to show that she has a nouns Dao nft
she uses Ezekiel which is a zkml platform to show that the risk model that runs on the combination of our GitHub activity and her nouns Dow nft gives us a really good score and she's very low risk so she gets immediately approved in this Marketplace that's good but you know squirrel is an L2 so what can I actually do with it I need to run to get this planet to ethereum first of all um and actually Alice's money also exists in ethereum as well like she has if
so she uses Herodotus which runs storage proof to show that she has enough eth to actually participate in this trade okay that's good and then she uses Axiom to get back from scroll to eat itself that's nice so she now got power level of 300. that's not enough though and she remembers it now that you know Aztec last year 2023 they launched sd-3 where you can do any programmable privacy application and she remembers she participated in this kind of nft raffle that gave their
some nfts from time to time and it's done privately because Aztec is all about privacy but Aztec requires you maybe to maintain some private data so you need to get your notes and you need to maintain some full node client in order to spend your your money privately or to participate in private applications and she didn't do that she she didn't think she would actually participate in it but she saw that these nfts are redeemable for Dark Forest Planet so now she has to but she doesn't want to wait for a year to think
so that's why she would want to use something like Bliss which allows you to use private information retrieval to get your private data in a manner that doesn't expose it to a centralized server that manages it for you so that's good and now she uses Maiden um in order to um in order to use their super efficient decks because it runs a very specific and a very specific via that allows you to run this kind of thing
and more than that she uses the shared sequencer that espresso systems has deployed the year before to do these things in a quick and atomic manner okay that's great so she has now an now has a 400 power level she now wants to continue and get to a thousand so she saw that there is a competition to write the best blockchain fantasy story but these competitions are really really known for the like first manipulations people always live they try to bribe all of the judges so they had to use something like Macy
which allows you to create a collusion resistant voting system in order to to vote for stories and win it in corruptionless manner she won the competition luckily and she now has a power level of 900. and for the final piece she saw that in cartridge there is currently a quest and cartridge is a gaming platform that allows you to Define things like quests so there is a quest to win the planet and the quest is part of a risk zero
enabled billiard game that runs an actual physics engine that is written in Rust and you could just compile it to risk zero she participated in the billiard game she does all the physics in her head she wins and she now has a power level of 1100 and she's able to conquer the planet but all of her money is now on eth so she uses the 16th zika Bridge in order to trustlessly transfer all of our planets to another chain and in this manner she now has enough planets on knowledge chain in order to conquer her desired planet
and she becomes the best player and maybe you'll hear about it in a few months if I haven't changed the future by telling you all of this but we have to remember that all of this involve like tens of transactions this was super complex and you could think about wait Alice had to click all the time so no because she used wallets that use the capsule SDK and the capsule SDK allows you to program what are the allowed transactions that you you think are risk-free and approve them automatically backed by
the capsule signer itself so she did that and this actually happened without her intervention and you can also think about that all of these things here are the two sexy and 16 Macy these are super complex zkps so it's really lucky that everyone integrated ingonyama's acceleration like infrastructure and so this is actually pretty fast so no not the problem and another reason that they were fast is because you know everyone already uses zeta function Technologies Proto Galaxy that you know came out in this timeline like a few days ago but people
already know it really well then so that works really well but the cherry on top is that a lot of these networks are actually secured by zika evaluator so you can also trust that everything is really really secure so everyone really interoperates and collaborates well in the future and that was really good to see but this is just the start uh yeah but some things I'm looking forward for you to see you know a lot of zika composition telling that something that has become very common
a lot of clients IDK that something that has been forgotten for the last few years here but we see a lot of that a lot of user managed data and we also see some seeds multi-party computation coming there currently there aren't too many MPC devtools existing and you know there are some also also some seeds of volumorphic encryption getting out there building complex applications so this is cool to see and to wrap it up with some haiku we work together
we compose and integrate and the world is improved and that's it foreign [Applause]