Web3 Data Flows on Blockpour

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foreign what's going on guys welcome back to the roll up we have a very special guest Brayden from blockport today we're going to be talking about data in blockchain and crypto so sit back relax this one should be tons of fun uh Brayden it's great to have you on um you know like we were talking about a little bit before uh before we hit record you've been in crypto some time could you give us a sense of like you know what got you into crypto and kind of what has been your journey up until this point yeah sure yeah I mean I I've obviously heard of I heard of crypto I think in 2016 near the tail end of 2016.

um started kind of dabbling in I guess beginning of 2017 um started buying a couple tokens um obviously had the big run up in 2017 as we all know um and you know after 2017 started taking the space I guess a bit more seriously um noticed that he was kind of picking up steam lots of opportunity to to build uh solve problems so I've just been trying to you know get as involved as I can um and then 2018 forward just been building tools which eventually evolved into what walk Warriors day um yeah I've been in this space since about 2017 or so beautiful are you a computer Scientist by trade or you know what kind of what were you doing at the time when you discovered crypto yeah so I've always been doing I guess computer science type of stuff I mean I've always been a developer been a

hacker at heart I guess I'm just throwing the other websites so you see the website design kind of as a freelancer through University um I actually studied business not computer science um I was kind of torn between the two uh for computer science I'm kind of self-taught um and wanted to you know have I guess a different perspective on on some stuff um so that was kind of the motivation to go through I guess business school but all through a business school I was still hacking away at stuff and obviously diving into crypto during that time um so yeah definitely definitely developer at heart um and enjoy hacking and throwing stuff together as much as I can yeah and there's been a lot of similarities drawn between like that time like the 2016 almost like 2016 to 2018 era and where we are today like

after the Mania of D5 summer and yield farming all that you know it's kind of quieted down a little bit um and I I was having a conversation the other day with um I think it was Bobby from from coin gecko talking about how like during during these times like we kind of ReDiscover like the philosophy of crypto and like the ethos whereas in the Mania it's just like well we're in it to make the money like everything's going up this is so great um and then kind of like in these valleys we kind of ReDiscover like why why we're in it you know like Bank the unbanked give people more Financial Freedom and and Empower them for for more economic freedom um and I'd like to kind of talk a little

bit about block poor and kind of like you know you were dabbling a little bit in crypto you were learning a little bit in 2017 you know probably bought some tokens that did really well and it was like wow like this this space is doing so much for me like what can I do for it I I shared a a similar a similar experience and then started to get more into it in 2018 as well what what was your experience kind of in 2018 you know maybe when prices subsided a little bit and you started to look at like what particularly Drew your interest um what were some of those things that that captured your interest yeah I mean definitely definitely ethereum I think just the understanding of applications being built on a blockchain was obviously A New Concept around that time um because I mean at that time you had

tokens like you know did you buy Bitcoin I mean a lot of these like clear ones um but you start looking at things like ethereum I mean it gets really exciting you know you could deploy contracts and do all these things um and you're the tale of end of 2018 obviously uniswap had kind of launched and that was a big revolution uh for me anyways because I enjoyed trading on you know binance a bitfinex on these different exchanges um but being able to exchange you know in a peer-to-peer way that was obviously not not requiring a counterparty you know just being able to interact with liquidity pools and there's definitely a huge eye-opener into the opportunities that this space can bring um on the decentralized side of things um and so you know with uniswap obviously launching in 2020 near the end of 2018.

um I started kind of building tools to analyze tokens that were trading on unislab um and with uniswap you can obviously create multiple tools with the same token and so there's some kind of like Arbitrage opportunities you know playing around with some of the tokens being able to buy tokens on uniswap and sell them on binance and just really inefficient Arbitrage I guess um in some senses um and then as the ecosystem kind of grew as we all know Sushi swap had had obviously you know cloned uh you know Swap and had launched as well um and that's where things really started getting interesting I think from from from my perspective in the sense that you kind of have this liquidity fragmentation now between you know these competitors essentially essentially right Sushi swap is fighting for liquidity you know swap is fighting for

liquidity users are kind of torn obviously you have one side you know with one project and and vice versa um that started creating you know inefficient markets I think right because we have liquidity being segregated you have some tokens trading on one decks and some tokens trading on another um and that's where things like Arbitrage started becoming much more interesting and enticing because you could you could actually start doing Arbitrage on on chain instead of having to offload to a binance you could just execute a trade on Sushi Swap and sell it you know in uniswap so it started getting really involved in in that space you know building some smart contract Bots and just trying to get as deep as I could into that space and understanding it um and obviously building tools you know being involved in telegrams and trying to start sharing data

um and this is eventually obviously how Wild core had had formed was out of out of that um but this problem has obviously been Amplified exponentially I mean we have so many dexes there's probably over you know 100 decks just on ethereum I mean now you have all these different you know layer one and layer twos that are ebm compatible um it's now you have you know the complications of bridges you have dexes everywhere you have liquidity everywhere and I think right now we're in an interesting time where data and liquidity is extremely fragmented and siled and that's one of the problems that Block Force you know obviously trying to solve is bringing kind of that fragmentation of data into one into one source or into one feed um but obviously you know over time hopefully this becomes a bit more efficient there's obviously liquidity

aggregators that exist that kind of help some of these problems but I guess that's kind of like the the introduction for me um getting involved into the actual on-chain side of things was was through that yeah yeah and we hear a lot about like liquidity fragmentation but but not so much about data fragmentation um and those two obviously go hand in hand like you mentioned how there was more Arbitrage opportunities that came up from uh the rise of decentralized exchanges you didn't have to like like you know way back when there there was that Arbitrage trade that I think Arthur Hayes and SPF both just whacked and they got they did really well by like flying to Japan or flying to Korea and you know

bringing a bag of cash and buying I think buying Bitcoin in America and then selling it in Korea or on those Asian exchanges and they were able to Arbitrage the heck out of those centralized exchanges and and make like you know Giga money and then you know all of a sudden ever that that trade kind of opened up to everyone on chain because you didn't have to fly somewhere and carry a bunch of cash with you you could just um you could just take it from you to swap to your coinbase or like whichever exchange you went to and then even you know it it became more and more permissionless and I think that that's kind of the trend that we're seeing because once more exchanges started to pop up and more networks started to pop

up you didn't need any centralized exchange account you could just you didn't have to Arbitrage between coinbase and and uniswap you could go between uniswap and pancake Swap and and you know you could just manage the bridges yourself rather than taking the flight and uh and and you know going that way um and I I've seen you know tons of tons of you know research and just evidence that liquidity is fragmented across a whole bunch of these exchanged and a lot of these Networks and I've seen it's kind of bittersweet because you do get these Arbitrage opportunities but it it's maybe a less efficient market in some ways um could you could you paint more of the picture like of the data fragmentation

kind of like why is that good why is that bad and then your general opinions on like how we see the trend in data either getting more fragmented or more unified yeah I mean I guess there's a couple different ways to answer I mean the first thing is just looking back at Arbitrage I mean I think there's both good things and bad things with this permissionless kind of architecture or I guess you know way that we're headed with these unchain activities I mean you've probably heard of you know Mev and some like the bad side of things when it comes to people trying to interact with these dexes but with Arbitrage I mean it's I think it's actually net positive just having more efficient markets there's a lot of contracts out there now that exist that kind of automate this process to obviously make money themselves but I

think it it inherently kind of creates this this kind of price parody at the same time which is obviously good for the overall Market if you have prices you know closely aligned on these different on these different exchanges I think when it comes to like overall data fragmentation just you know outside of just liquidity fragmentation it's kind of the a similar problem like you have all these networks you have all these layer ones all these layer twos um and somebody new to crypto or even institution or anybody who's trying to enter the space I think it's very overwhelming right if you try to tell somebody like you know get metamask oh and now you have to bridge now you have to use pancake Swap come back like it's I think the UI and ux is notoriously bad in crypto for reasons like that and I

think when it comes to like data fragmentation as well it's you have all this activity happening on all these networks you have transactions transfers people interacting um but if you run a node on Avalanche or on Phantom you obviously can't access data on ethereum right because these blockchains run you know independently I mean for the most part and so with blockport we're running nodes on all these different networks that we support and we're basically trying to pull all this data into one place so if you're a user who wants to understand what a wallet is doing we could obviously give you a cross chain perspective instead of having data fragmented across all these different networks and looking at different different providers right if I wanted to analyze somebody's wallet on ethereum there are steps to do that either running an ethereum node or going

through data provider but now you're missing what that wallet is doing in other spots or other places and so that's kind of like the data fragmentation I guess that I was kind of talking about is just being able to to pull all these things into one place and get the overall picture of actually what's going on not just on a per wallet level but also you know contract interactions I mean where activity is kind of happening um yeah that's kind of what we're what we're aiming to hopefully maybe not solve but definitely make it make it a bit more efficient yeah yeah and it it's interesting to hear you guys are running all these nodes because you know there's obviously other data providers out there like you know without even getting into some of them I'm curious do most of those um you're more familiar with kind of

like their solution than I am do most of those other data providers also run nodes yeah no it's a good question I mean early on you have a couple options right if you want to be a data provider or access raw data yourself you could obviously go through an RPC provider right like an inferior a quick note in alchemy I mean there's a lot of these solutions that kind of exist um and there's nothing wrong with them the problem is at scale you're dependent on this third party to access a node right so for Alchemy you're paying per RPC request to a node um which is fine if you're just a developer if you're trying to build a platform but it could become extremely expensive if you're making you know billions of requests a day across all these networks and if you're trying to extract a lot of events it becomes

um it doesn't become feasible for several reasons and you're also dependent on somebody else's architecture and infrastructure rather for for us early on we decided that it made sense to run our own infrastructure just for the sake that we would have unrestricted access to this data um so if we wanted to start supporting nfts or GameFly and we had to backfill all the blocks and look through them all we could do that pretty quickly with our infrastructure whereas with the quick order and Alchemy we're now dependent on their rate limits but also it would be extremely expensive to iterate over all those blocks again to look for different events um and so it was kind of like a I guess like an engineering investment early on for us to decide you know up front it's obviously easier to go with a third-party provider but we decided to

go the road of running our own infrastructure which is slowly starting to pay off now which you know take some time but hopefully we'll be able to reap the benefits um you know that we've created over you know over the next few few years yeah yeah the uh the RPC providers have kind of it's almost like the one centralized choke point I think we haven't really solved yet most users are not running their own node like this was you know something common back in I mean even before my time like when CPU mining was still relatively not common but maybe possible in in Bitcoin like we never really got that point with with ethereum and

yeah we have enough trouble with self-custody that like everyone running their own node is just kind of a pipe dream at this point we we may get there but I think we kind of have to solve the self-custody ux first and then we may get to a place where you know we can get people running their own node yeah and I mean going back to that as well like it's um if you look at ethereum for example if you go to ethereum.org if you want to run an archive node um first of all you need like decent compute like you need obviously you know dedicated resources you need a lot of storage but it also takes like 30 plus days just to sync right so there's like an actual like a blocker like it's not just like you need to pay money you need

storage like you need to actually wait if you want to run an archive node um and I can't even imagine like BNB chain or you know BSC I mean that network is like 20 plus terabytes like if you're trying to run a cloud node archive node with that type of storage I mean you're going to be paying you know thousands of dollars a month just in storage let alone the time it will take to sync um but with that being said I mean there's there's Solutions like Aragon out there that are kind of implementations of Geth um or different implementation of Geth that allows you to obviously sync nodes extremely fast and uh at much more efficient storage sizes so so there are definitely ways um to go around running these archive nodes if you do want like unrestricted access to some of this data but some of

this stuff is still kind of in I guess early you know early stages so definitely excited on that front to see how those types of platforms and projects evolve as well I I first set up my uh my first ethereum wallet I had to download like the entire chain and it took like three days to sync which you know obviously is going to take so much more time now with all the transactions but yeah it's just it's just crazy to see like we it's so it's so insane like we we've came such a long way in terms of ux where you don't need to spend all these resources or spend all the storage to to have a wallet like now you can just have a wallet in your Google Chrome browser like there's one there's one side of

like anyone who's new is gonna think that's just that's such like that's bloatware like a Google Chrome extension like I don't that I I don't want to Google Chrome extension I just want to like click a couple buttons or something but coming from like the era of like downloading the entire chain and and like that you have to do that to own a wallet and own some tokens we've made tremendous progress up until this point that you know we're gonna figure out these ux things it's going to take a little bit of time but like with all the community feedback and and now like all of the developers and all the builders who are contributing to the ux like I'm sure I'm sure we'll figure it out and yeah yeah I mean it's definitely a good point kind of like you said earlier

like is you know if it's really a a good thing or a bad thing I mean with that enhancement in UI ux obviously now these people are dependent on third-party rpcs or on an RPC provider right I mean I I personally don't think it's a big problem but it's definitely kind of a bit of a trade-off of decentralization I guess you know from before if you're running your own node you're obviously you know you're in control of that and you're in control of your own RPC whereas now we're a bit dependent on a lot of these providers which I think is fine but it's just one of those trade-offs I guess with better ux um especially when it comes to this the decentralized side of things yeah the other one is pocket right pocket network is one of those decentralized rpcs yeah we just I just

hadn't seen really a need for them and and like I don't know you I I think part of the mindset is that it's a little bit reactive like you know we we aren't really in a position to change like our normal RPC provider until there's a problem with the the one that you know we've been using um and then that's unfortunately sometimes when it's too late but if we can kind of preventatively uh and preemptively kind of go and change these rpcs and and make some decentralized tweaks to kind of prevent like anything any exploits from happening to begin with then hopefully you know we we can save some some exploits we can save some money and and save some people from theft um what what do you what are you guys

doing on blockport to kind of like you know like just further further the entire ecosystem towards like this more unified data solution like you know how you see this this future shaking out with like the progress that we've been making on ux so far how do you see someone uh using block poor yeah I mean there's a couple interesting ways to use block Pro I mean like I said before I mean I started blog for kind of out of my excitement of dexes and trading dexes a lot of our current data is obviously around decentralized exchanges um I mean I think one one really quick example is just trying to make um not really the space but I guess certain aspects of the safe a little bit

safer for people who are new to crypto and one example of this is you know if you're trading on pancake spot for unit swap you might look at a liquidy pool that has you know 30 million dollars of liquidity and make the assumption that oh this pool is safe to trade in right you know there's guaranteed liquidity there but if that liquidity is provided by one provider you know they could obviously pull that out like in one transaction right um and so I think for Block core we're trying to add more data and deeper analytics to a lot of these things that don't currently exist I mean if you go to the venusoft analytics dashboard they obviously show you a lot of stuff um for us we want to get a bit a bit deeper and obviously irrigate a bunch of stuff together so you could see if

you're looking at a token you'd be able to see liquidity from all these sources but also be able to Deep dive into you know how safe that liquidity actually is or how predictive that liquidity actually is and when it comes to like just overall data I think for us we're working on you know a bunch of apis for developers and also on the B2B side of our business where you'd be able to access multi-chain data inherently um so if you wanted to look up the token like all they you know get price information or liquidity information um you'd be able to get that cross chain so if you typed in obvi you'd be able to see the price on Phantom price on Avalanche and just try to combine all these things into one easy to access setup apis and then we obviously plan to extend our front end over time as well

for the retail side of things for people that access this data in a in an easy way yeah yeah the uh the notion that like everything that can get tokenized will get tokenized kind of provides this like really fragmented view when we have so many tokens we're even seeing like the political currencies like the ones that are domestically tied to countries start to become more and more fragmented like as of recently more nations are declaring that they're not going to kind of adhere to the dollar homogeney that you know we've seen like over the last you know bunch of years and it's almost taking like the coin thesis to the

next level like by pioneering it in blockchain in cryptocurrencies nations are starting to adopt that same Viewpoint and take more of their own economy into their into the hands of the the currency holders you know in their citizens so that's creating like this more and more fragmented world and and and you know block board is is there to kind of like unify the data and give more relative like the deeper analytics you mentioned to me give give more of like a relative value where we're no longer just equating everything in dollar terms and that that was something that had almost it wasn't really around like early on and then once more the centralized

exchanges started to get volume um and trading view got into integrated into these exchanges everything was denominated in the dollar but I think we've gone through Ebbs and flows where like stuff isn't really it stuff is and then it isn't really denominated in the dollar and as we kind of see the progression of like the domestic currencies uh move more and more towards like a fragmented relative view not all tied and denominated in the dollar um it seems like that's where the trend is going and it'll create more and more Arbitrage between like not only the Fiat currencies but also the cryptocurrencies when the rails are built to kind of uh take advantage and and Arbitrage those

markets yeah no I mean it makes sense I mean going back to the dollar I mean it's kind of it's kind of interesting if you kind of look at the space at a high level that we're in right now in kind of like the early stage of it I mean I've always considered you know usdc as a world that can be safe stable coin um you know in comparison to some of the others out there um and I mean that obviously had a pretty major depeg so they're obviously I I think that kind of shows the immaturity kind of in this space obviously that was kind of you know caused by external factors and this and that and ended up repaying quickly but it's things like that that kind of you know show I guess some of you know how early we are in in this space um I think

and um yeah it was just it was just interesting seeing that play out I never would have thought we would see a d-peg at that scale um you know with the stable coin as large as as usgc yeah and talk about an Arbitrage opportunity right there I mean anyone who was able to still redeem one to one um and that uscc was at such a bargain at like 89 or 91 cents or whatever it got to yeah it was just funny seeing like the the liquidation bots on Twitter people getting liquidated trying to trying to buy and sell a stable coin um you know you don't see that often you see a lot of liquidations for Bitcoin and ethereum but you know seeing people share liquidation alerts for people getting liquidated trying to long a stable coin is is definitely a you know not a site

that you see often yeah yeah and it's it's not and like from what I've seen about those liquidation bots on chain especially like it they all happen at once it's like these cataclysmic events um where something happens to like shake the the entire industry and that's when having one of these Liquidator Bots is like particularly profitable because there's so many liquidations that happen at once um they may be unprofitable for you know a month or two but if you can catch one of these events and have one of those Liquidators on um that's when it it really ramps up that's when the liquidations happen and like you know those Bots are able to

capture tons of tons of profit um I imagine kind of streaming some data in from block poor via those apis gives developers a sense of where to deploy those types of bots yeah I mean for us we're obviously working on on extending some more functionality out but for usdc as an example I mean during the depending something interesting interesting that you could do is you could just use our apis or a front end to kind of see the price of ustc across all these networks um when big events like this happen like when big liquidation events or big price movements happen that's where the biggest price efficiency is obviously occur because on some networks you have liquidations on other networks you don't especially when it's on chain liquidations um so there's massive pricing

inefficiencies that occur during these times of panic and with block party you could obviously utilize that to kind of see the current price of these assets on these different chains um there's a lot of there's a lot of smart contracts that will try to to resolve this and obviously profit but there is still lots of opportunity out there especially when there's big swings in the market and you know a lot of panic happening yeah and that that's you know definitely an opportune time to use a liquidator bot what what are you seeing on the Mev side uh if any you know what what's your experience with that and and like how does block poor uh data fit into some Mev yeah I mean MVP is interesting um I find you know the stuff that flashbots is doing is super fascinating as well for

Meb protection and a lot of the other stuff that they're working on um I mean Mev is um I mean for blockport we haven't started capturing it yet I mean we are capturing it internally but we're not showing it on our apis or dashboard yet um we're supposed to try to better understand uh Mev itself but we definitely want to start May building pools um that are often Mev attacked and also encourage people obviously to use RPC relayers that will provide me protection um I I think Mev has become a big enough Topic at this point that a lot of people are at least aware of it which is the first step I guess which is good um and people can obviously protect themselves if they want I know that some irrigators I don't know if one inch does but I know a couple aggregators already

have kind of you know MAV protection built in as like a a feature or functionality which I think is is super good um but obviously mbb is everywhere I mean you've probably seen some transactions being shared on Twitter of some of these massive Bots you know moving funds and you know some of the Bots actually will will often get get ready as well themselves you know from other bots so definitely you know a bit of the Wild West with the Dark Forest as flashbots you know has alluded to so it's um yeah it's definitely an interesting space yeah yeah it speaks to like just how how early we still are and it's kind of insane to think about like you know this space is almost well you know bitcoin's more than 10 years old ethereum is

getting up there as well um but in the in the grand scheme of things like we're we're still so early yeah and I mean you know outside of Mev there's some other there's some other fascinating you know things as well I think on the D5 side like flash loans I think are also another very interesting concept that a lot of people want to have more insight into what's actually happening um I mean on Twitter you know like these massive transaction logs will be shared of you know a flashbot uh you know execution that that has either exploited you know a a chain or protocol um and it's kind of interesting because with flashblots obviously people are trying to do Arbitrage by taking out like a collateral an unCloud realized loan um I just found that whole concept super fascinating I was doing um I've been

I've been involved in a few hackathons in the past in crypto and in 2019 I did a San Francisco blockchain hackathon with a couple other folks and we were actually working on uh flash loans or building a flash loan POC for restless Arbitrage um when it was still on testnet so it's been interesting to see that evolve as well that's kind of obviously different than Mev but just the ability to be able to take out these massive unclutterized loans if you pay it back in the same transaction in kind of some of the I guess you know things and opportunities that that opens up for people whether that's through exploits or you know or other other types of actions yeah what do you guys see as the main consumer of block poor data like is it mostly institutional or retail um because I I think there's there's

such a learning curve in crypto that I like it it takes still a like a computer scientist to really develop a type of solution for um for a liquidator bot or a flash loan like that hasn't broken into like like Trad fire types of businesses quite yet but I imagine it will at some point you know like they have they have you know robust product development and Engineering departments within their companies and Banks like but but by that by the time they break into it there's going to be some like new you know way to play the game so like I'm I'm curious how you've seen

kind of like block poor been how has block poor been received by um by some of the different audiences who do you see as a main consumer yes I mean we we kind of have two I guess I guess targets for block for like on the business side we always have the b2c offering and the B2B offering um on the b2c side it's our retail you know front-end platform that you could access and use and that that's used by a lot of you know Traders whether they're experienced or non-experienced just trying to get information about a token or trying to Deep dive into liquidity pools um so our front-end platform is definitely tailored towards the b2c side and we want to start getting into adding additional functionality where you can kind of unlock things with subscriptions and kind of dive super deep into some of

these different segments with alerts um a kind of other functionality like that uh on the B2B stuff like you had kind of alluded to obviously on the B2B side it's a lot of our our raw API access is is what you know a lot of these institutions or companies want to ingest to build their own types of of dashboards or front ends with the data um I mean our our front end is just our representation of our apis but you could obviously build anything you wanted with the raw data itself um some of the interesting use cases that we've seen early on are around reconciliation so if you're an institution if you're a Trader if you're a hedge fund you know ever might be being able to track your own wallet to your clients Wallets on chain and seeing where they're moving funds seeing who

they're interacting with seeing portfolios over time and kind of fun movements I think is is something that our apis provide right now we also have a tool in the front end as well we can kind of visualize uh you know token flows uh between entities or between wallets to kind of see how these you know wallets like binance or a wallet you know that you might label yourself is is is getting funds or sending funds to yeah I saw the token uh the transfer flows uh page on there and it's cool like it gives a visual representation of like what's going on this chain and you know as we grow like the number of chains and like all these bridges in and out you know or like populating this tokenized world like I can totally see how like there's a city you know

ethereum and then there's all these bridges that go out and like these chains are interconnected almost like you can see the traffic you know if you were like a traffic controller you could see you know car hours and flights moving on like a flight tracker like in and out of Manhattan um you can see transactions moving in and out of ethereum on this type of transfer flow visualization that that's there on block poor um yeah yeah it's it's super cool to see like that evolve and how it started out is just just this like not much going on just kind of like rocked in the sea and now it's now it's got like all this life on it um which is just it's just amazing to to

see the progression of it um and and to think about how early we still are and and the progression that's still to come in terms of ux um you know like we see Forks once in a while uniswap and then we saw Sushi swap pancake swap but once in a while we see a spoon um and how like you know that that normally changes the game for now like you know I think we're kind of on the precipice of like really embracing this uh this the merge economics that I think people are calling it um and with eth being deflationary uh you know we got another having coming up in a year or so um there's just there's some really exciting uh advancements that are coming up and and uh you know we may see

another another spin of the flywheel and another thrust of momentum here relatively soon yeah I mean hopefully that would definitely that would definitely be nice and I mean going back to your city analogy yeah I mean I think I think there's definitely some interesting stuff you know in the works I mean if you look at some of the stuff at layer zero is um is is doing um in some of these other platforms I mean Stargate as well with this cross-chain messaging cross-chain liquidity um I think it's definitely kind of trying to connect these cities you know with your analogy and just allow the user to interact with with liquidity interact with with platforms without needing to have this high level of technical you know experience or have to go through all these headaches of bridging and umberging you know like Stargate can handle these things kind of

behind the scenes so definitely super super exciting yeah yeah the cross chain stuff is super exciting like we we recently rebranded to the roll up just to really Embrace like the scalability of it um and you know we could have a whole other conversation on how these uh these cross-chain messaging uh protocols could could really level up the game um for financial applications and other applications as well um I think it'd be really cool to see some of the Data Solutions like like they're all they're like obviously they're all token token based but that's because like right now 90 probably more than 90 of the applications on chain are Financial but we're seeing more and more

governance we're seeing more and more social like lens protocol is popping off um so yeah you know do you have any plans to incorporate some maybe some of the non-financial data into block poor yeah I definitely want to get into into other data sets as well I mean as I mentioned earlier with with us running you know archive nodes on these networks we obviously have access to any type of data that we want to extract um I think when it comes to GameFly nfts I mean those are some other exciting sectors I think as well this is showing some data points for but also other things as well so definitely want to start adding that stuff as well to our platform and to our apis yeah and like you said you you're you know positioned to like really take advantage of that because you have you're running the

nodes yourself you know you made the the engineering investment um to kind of go really deep from the onset and there there's so many possibilities that unfold as a result of of solid infrastructure um yeah super exciting what you guys are doing yeah and I mean I think like you said earlier I mean like these during bull markets even bear markets I mean you see like these exciting advancements every you know once in a while like this new this new big thing like nfps have obviously been around for years but they recently popped off um and so I think one thing as well with Walker being a startup and that's running our own nodes you know if there are trends that appear and if there are these new these new platforms these new Concepts that emerge um you know hopefully we can we can

quickly start capturing that data and obviously providing something valuable on our front end right away um so definitely you know we're trying to anticipate Trends and trying to keep up with all these different ecosystem advancements which is becoming incredibly difficult because there's something new happening every day in the space but um definitely super excited you know to see what comes next and also you know to quickly add it to our platform so users can can understand what's happening yeah yeah well right now you guys are doing uh a great job providing those tools and uh the the visualization and the and the data in general to uh to these you know consumers of of all all kinds of apps on chain so Kudos um where can our audience find you um obviously it's it's block poor um.com so you know you can you guys can

check out the application you can you can find out uh kind of all the Data Solutions that we've been talking about and and where can our audience find you um you know personally on Twitter uh or connect on Discord yeah so on Twitter it's just at blogport um and then obviously our app app.blogcar.com um we are looking at opening up a a telegram and or a Discord as well um so once we do it we'll be on our landing page and you're just gonna hopefully connect with us there that'd be any questions if you want to reach out just feel free to send us a message on on Twitter and we could definitely definitely get back to you yeah Baltimore Brandon it's a pleasure thanks for coming on yeah thanks for your time appreciate it thank you cheers