Getting Started with Hyperlane

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gmgm welcome to what's going to be another great episode of Devon so you didn't know devel is a 30-minute podcast held every week allowing Founders hackers and anyone in between uh the opportunity to showcase their product and today I'm EXA to welcome AA uh who you may also know as EA tweets online uh who's a developer Advocate at hyperlane if you didn't know hyperlane is a permissionless interrupt ability protocol for cross-chain communication so if you stick around for today's episode epod you'll see edia give us a overview of hyperlane why it exists and how you can start building with it today all right let's get into [Music] it gmgm welcome to the show AA excitic

to have you on today thank you thanks for having me I'm excited to um to to chat today with you it's been like long time in the waking with us so happy that we got it together awesome awesome yeah yeah for sure uh we had to reschedule I believe uh once uh but uh yeah happy we are uh finally at the time of your uh your appearance here uh I guess before we get into all the good stuff you have planned for us um with hyperlane uh do you want to give a brief introduction about yourself in case folks aren't familiar yeah for sure that would be great um so hi everyone uh my name is Ida and I'm a developer advocate at hyperlane so uh I've been part of

hyperlane for I believe it's almost four months now um and today I'm going to give like an introduction about what we're doing how we're like working on cross-chain messaging and hopefully we'll go over a demo as well a bit about my background is I was part of the web 3 crypto space for almost like four years now I think I'm entering my fourth year and I've been mostly in the ethereum space now exploring other ecosystems as well um and yeah I come from a software engineering background and ended up as like a developer Advocate after a few years um but yeah that's like a very unorganized short intro about myself yeah all good all good uh I guess uh I'm always curious to hear like uh what brought you into the um web 3 field

um was there a particular thing that inspired you or something that you saw or perhaps disliked in the web to space that brought you into here yeah for sure so mostly it was Co um so like right Honest ly it was um it wasn't like I did really enjoy like working in the web to space I was part of networking and it was actually like very fun for me um and we were working with iot networks and then when Co hit um it it just became I had a lot of time to spend at home so that's when like crypto was kind of becoming popular in Turkey as well I had just moved back to Turkey from the Netherlands so I just had like a lot of time uh at home uh and when you see like crypto all the time on

like advertisements and stuff I was like oh like let me like try trading on an exchange uh perhaps not the best decision because it was like when all the prices were super high um but then yeah like just by experimenting I was like okay like why is there like so many different coins like how does this stuff actually work and since I had so much time I just ended up starting a blog um and then from there like just met a lot of people through Twitter uh got way like interested in the space that my my old job was like very less interesting for me so then I kind of ended up like accepting a job actually was through Twitter as well um and yeah I think it was like a really good decision I'm like very happy that I made the switch uh but

most people ask ask me like what brought you in it was mostly like that I had a lot of time and time to research this um and yeah that's kind of how I ended up and continuing here awesome and yeah folks uh definitely if you're not following uh AA on uh on X uh she makes really great uh content so definitely give her a follow um and one one other thing just before we get into the content um you mentioned you were a software engineer beforehand uh just curious like what brought you over to the developer Advocate side like was it um did it more align with the type of things that you'd like to create or yeah so I didn't really know that

there was like a developer Advocate job as well like I kind of like stumbled upon it um when I was like a software developer and when I started to create a blog um I kind of learned that oh okay like you can create like a lot of technical content and do like more more like yeah work on the content side and kind of like I was also like my last job was technical sales too I like transitioned to technical sales and it felt like really similar to what you do in technical sales with just a different name and a different audience um so it was very interesting like it I didn't really realize that there was such a role but then I kind of realized it really matches what I was doing on my free time as well um and then since I

was already doing that I was like oh okay cool there's like a job for this as well I might as well kind of explore it I do think developer Advocate is like a very like you say it but it sometimes it can mean a lot of things but it can also mean nothing so it's kind of like a weird role because like it's not very well defined and that was kind of my issue with it like in technical sales it's super well defined like you either sell or you don't sell it's like very like you have like proper metrics of success which I'm still trying to understand what it is for developer advocacy um but yeah I feel like there's my main motivation was that I feel like there's so many good Tech being made but most people don't really want to talk about it or like you know explain it to

people who have no knowledge of it because it might sound a little like beginner or it might sound like not not like they can work on other stuff at the same time as well and for me I really enjoy enjoy that process like being the translator in between I feel like computer science was very hard for me and I was like I wish people like explained it simply so I just like to like break down stuff and like especially when it comes to technical stuff that I'm interesting in for a general audience to understand beautiful love to hear it and uh this is a wonderful segue into the content that you have prepared for us uh looking forward to breaking down hyperlane uh I will uh bring your slides on screen H cool yeah you are good to go awesome perfect let's get going we do

have um I do have quite a few like not too many slides but like a nice agenda prepared and if there are any questions we can like try and see what they are but hopefully leave them to the end so then we can cover all the content uh but yeah if anyone has any questions you can feel free to drop them any any like anytime on the side um so let's get to it I know we we have like 22 minutes and it's always like racing against time but okay so um to start off I do want to give like a quick in uction of hyane and then we are going to go to a live demo depending on the time we have um but just to get it started basically the main idea is that now that we have um a lot of L layer ones a lot of rollups

like we realized when we started with blockchain it's like oh like this is very cool but then the more people use it the more like less scalable it became and like the more alternative Solutions there need to like emerge uh so that's when we saw like new l1s come up and then also like uh being congestion in like the the l1s themselves that's when we see like Layer Two scaling Solutions come up rollups and now with rollup as a Services it's just so easy to like create your own rollup that the the the world is like the the blockchain ecosystem went from very homogeneous to very fragmented really fast um so that's clearly where we see like interoperability between rollups or like the different networks is sparse and highly fragmented um and that's exactly

where uh these cross chain messaging or bridging protocols come in um so I I do want to move through these quickly but you can find like a lot of introduction content also like on on the different materials were published at hyperlane um and the main idea is that now that we have this very fragmented ecosystem how can we make communication between the different ecosystems easier because when you isolate like when you have um when you want to make an app that interacts with all of them or like it's it just limits your like Innovation framework as like a developer or app developer um and that's the main issue we come to solve and that's exactly where permissionless crushing interoperability comes in because it is like mostly permissionless to deploy on

these different networks uh not all of them of course but like when you look at the open source ecosystem you can deploy an app on ethereum you can go ahead and deploy an app on like on Bas um and then when you do that you want like for example Bas and Zora to communicate with each other so you don't really want to go and like oh like I want to get permission so that these two talk to each other but kind of wanted to to be in a way where you as a developer or an app you know app owner can kind of set it up yourself um and that's exactly where hyperlane comes in um my slides don't have so many words so hyperlane is an interoperability uh is a cross-chain messaging um protocol and the way I kind of describe it is that hyperlane is

permissionless so anyone can connect any chain and deploy like hyperlane themselves onto it and create like the different routes um one key Innovation is that it uses modular security so you might be like you know like I want to deploy and like I want to deploy hyan to my chain but I have different security requirements that's where modular security is key because you can configure the security requirements based on your needs and you don't have to go with like a certain set um especially like this is I like to like a double touch on this because um it is like one of the main questions that come up like how can I upgrade my security when like new features come up or like when new advancements come up uh that's exactly how we kind of see it is that it kind of works as like um I like to

describe it as like Lego blocks so you can go ahead and like you can change Legos inside and you can upgrade your Security based on like your needs um and yeah like we have like different Frameworks different like tool set up so that it simplifies moving assets between chains and we're really going to get to that so hopefully I'll be able to show a live demo um and then depending on the time you'll be like oh like she was able to set up in five minutes or or not but it is like that time okay cool and I know we have a technical audience so I'm not going to just leave it by that but I do kind of want to explain the components uh basically the way hyperlane works is that we have different interfaces on different chains and we call them the mailbox contracts

so mailbox contracts are deployed on the chains which you want to connect to and once you connect your like your mailbox contracts then you kind of have the agents in between which are the rers and the validators uh which kind of carry the message to the other chains like your destination chain that you want to send a message M to and then where the security frame security like modules these Lego building blocks comes in is the in isms we call them interchange security modules um and these are what kind of allow you to uh like change or upgrade as you go ahead uh yeah so that's kind of the main process basically hyperlink gives you an interface to connect to different chains with customizable security which you can

change as like new new features come out or like as your requirement chain or depending on your on your requirements basically and um okay well uh we can move on to warp routs so I don't want to use too many different like new term introductions however I do feel like the mailbox was like very helpful for me to understand so I like to mention that as well as the ism uh and now the warp routes warp warp routes are basically like hyperlanes they use hyperlanes cross train messaging protocol for uh asset for like token bridging so it's kind of our implementation of token bridon Made Easy for anyone to deploy themselves um so what it does is like you can set like a route between like

what we will do for example it set a route between like base and optimism uh and basically what happens is because like you have mailbox contracts on both these chains and then we basically like create like a warp route which allows you to bridge certain tokens and the warp outs like they have different token types so you can say like I want to transfer like native tokens or collateral token tokens or synthetic tokens depending on like you know what token you want to transfer uh what we're going to be doing is we're going to be transferring like a token that's already on base but that's not on the other on the other like destination chain so it'll be like a collateral to synthetic warout um am I going too fast is I tend to like talk fast when I'm like uh

presenting so I try to calm myself down but hopefully like I'm not like rushing no you're doing great you're doing great okay awesome this this is actually also like my first presentation on hyperlane which is live so um that's kind of cool to do as well um but okay so just to wrap up kind of what we're talking about is hyperlane is a cross chain messaging protocol which uses modular security and um the way it works is that we have different core components basically the interface which we call the mailbox this customizable security modules which is the ism and then agents in between and these are the relayer and the validators um and the way you can you can kind of use all these out of the box is by warp routes when you want to transfer tokens so kind

of our take on token bridging is using warp routes and there are different type of work routs depending on what you kind of need um oh okay I have one more slide before the demo uh this kind of illustrates like a work BR FL I think we can kind of move it because we will like be doing like a demo in just a bit and I want to leave time for questions and okay so we can go to the demo and um I do have like everything recorded So any anyone wants to follow along there is the the the QR code and we'll also drop the link in the YouTube description um after the fact as well so perfect and then there is like a small gup repo which basically walks you through the steps which I'll be doing

today um you know in case it fails you can try it it's tried it's tested it works but live demos do tend to like have Murphy's Law or like something like that which don't work um but you can definitely they follow over there so let me kind of move to it and we'll see like how long it takes me and um just kind of talk through it and feel free to like ask any questions on the way as well like n for yourself or like if there are any questions from the audience we can totally address them okay is this like big enough uh okay cool is this big enough or uh yeah I I can make it up yeah okay cool so I am going to open the

this repo just I want to kind of show it over here show it off um so the repo which we're following is a developer Workshop uh where we're building like a war rout um oop sorry and what we're going to be doing is we're going to be using hyper Lan crossan messaging infrastructure and we're going to be using warp routs to build a bridge for a search and erc20 token on base to move to optimism so we have our token on base um I did like a like we can actually like what I thought we could do is we can just open like I will just open over here so I was just like opening over here and I thought it would be cool to

do like the virtuals protocol token uh the the guide itself follows the the like another token but it's kind of like you can choose whatever token you want to follow um and what we're going to be doing is we're going to be like moving the virtuals token and we're going to be minting a like creating a contract and minting a synthetic version on another chain and for this guide we'll just use optimism you can use you know any chain you want you can use the test Nets um I hope it won't cost me too much deploy so I thought it would be cool to like deploy to to the networks themselves and uh the only thing I did prior is I have the hyperlane CLI now the hyperlane CLI is a tool which you can use easily to create War brows and

to make deployments to chains um so um if you do want to follow along you do need to like install the hyperlane CLI it just makes it very easy to set up war brouts or like do different like configurations with hyperlane um and then yeah you can like check the version kind of have like a prerequisite over here I also did add my my key my hype key which is the key which is used to pay for my deployments and transactions um you can like just you know add like I I defined it over here so then it doesn't prompt me when we do the live demo but those are the only prior steps that I did um and then anything else to cover I think we're good to go as I mentioned we're going to be using an erc20 token which is already on base and we want to me

like a new one a synthetic version on another Network which is going to be optimism um I already have like some some money on those chains so then I can pay for the cost so that's just one thing you might want to consider when you're doing it is that you'll need to I actually realized I don't have that as a prerequisite on the guide but I'll make sure to add it afterwards as well um and then now before deploying the work brouts there is one step prior which I didn't mention uh now hyan is deployed on I believe more than 120 chains and all those chains already have the hyane interfaces which is the mailbox contracts so because we are deploying to a network which already has like a hyperlane uh deployment there I don't need to like connect my chain but let's

say like you're a new chain and you need to like connect your new chain to kind of make that possible that's exactly where you need to to follow the deploy when chain guide which guides you to like how you can set up hyperlane on your chain but since like these networks already have hyperlane all I need to do is I need to like um like use the the the already deployed mailbox and let me show that guide um I'm just going to copy this perfect getting started so you have over here the how to connect to your chain guide uh the guide I'm following is how to bridge a token with hyperlane warps so it's just kind of like a simplified version of of this guide this guide is a bit more detailed highly

suggested I just made it like made it easy to follow along with no description Okay cool so let's go ahead now I'm going to do a hyperlane warp in it to initialize my warp outs this will guide me through the through the what do you call like the the Wizard which allows me to choose the different settings I want to do mayet um so so I chose mayet and now I need to show the chains which which I want to connect to I'm going to choose you you can kind of use the arrows let's choose base and then you can choose any chain you

want as I mentioned these are the chains which hyperlane is already on and if you want to see which chains they are you can go to the hyperlane registry and it kind of shows you already which chains are on hyperin okay yes this is yes um yes this is correct yes okay so for the parksy admin contract you can get this from the hyperlane registry I just added it here I also have the link over here to the hyperlane registry to kind of show you where it's from um now for convenience or let's let's quickly like add it here oops sorry I I'm just going to do that again uh

base I was just moving fast that I didn't read the prompt and I just entered so um good live demos sorry that was my mistake not Murphy's Law yet so these are correct this is correct as well I do want to use I'll add the address let's just say no for okay so I'll use a collateral because this to is an ERC token on base already um enter the co the token address my English is failing me now so I got this room here let's say yes and then I'll just

add the optimism proxy admin address no and then this is going to be a sended toen okay perfect so uh this gave me the the configuration file what this does is it this generates like a configs war deployment yaml file and you can see over here the configurations so if you don't like them you can go in and edit them but the CLI as you see is able to like generate the the configuration file directly so it just makes it a lot easier uh okay so this was basically the first step initializing the war rout as I said I have the the details here on the registry so you can kind of just like also see these uh where the registry is you can go over to here to

the hyperlane registry you can see the chains like for example for base you can find here the details um and yeah this is kind of where you can find all the details and all the contracts which are on different chains and then moving forward we added this we saw like the successfully created message and then now let's deploy the warp BRS so I'm going to do a hyper lay warp deploy now as I said because I already have my private key saved it's not going to ask me but let's say you didn't it will actually ask you I just think it's you know easier if you save it uh let's just say no for now because I don't have like an an um API key yet and this gives me like our our

configuration you can see over here the details uh the token collateral synthetic the war brouts tights the the ism uh the default configuration so then we don't have to like think about them um and then let say yes so what we did was we said okay like we want this virtuals Contra virtuals token which is on base and we want to like have a route for it to also be like have a synthetic version on optimism on op main net so um that's kind of in the first like in the First Command uh we oops I think there's like a small think let's just try it again I'm not

actually sure so what's happening is basically you're deploying um you're deploying a contract that represents the these routes or yeah exactly that is exactly what's happening uh it's deploying the contracts which represents the like which makes the connection possible so for example um okay I'm actually not sure why exactly let's let's try again for and if it doesn't work I'll show the the the UI which makes it work but I'm

going to like I just want to make sure we can have like a certain token to show um and then I'm going I choose base I'll choose optimism here and then yes say yes let's just skip these since this is just for test it's going to be a collateral token and then we have over here the we can actually do like the okay the the Fay token this time which is on base so you can directly get these addresses I'm just doing because we're

very limited on time and then I'm going to do a hyperlane warp Diplo again it gives us collateral the token address now because I just quickly wanted to make sure it works I chose the address of the Fay token uh which is on base and then I do a yes and then as you mentioned this is deploying the contracts which are required for this deployment so for example it's like deploying the hype erc20 token contract which is the sythetic token which mins the tokens themselves so um I think this time we're going to get there and while this is loading let me actually go ahead and

show you the super Bridge playground which kind of we want to showcase how the token works and one more thing on the docs is that we have like a hyperlane UI uh guide like a u template not guide sorry uh which kind of allows you to like deploy like your own hyperlane warp UI template like the the the uh Warp uh template UI which kind of allows you to test your warp outs or like just go ahead and like fork and create your own and then there's also the super Bridge uh template which I'll be showcasing uh it's quite like a cool way to kind of see how it works especially when you just make like a quick test and you're like oh like how does this work you can totally do that and uh this this guide

is quite helpful and may make it really handy for you to quickly go ahead and deploy your own warout UI well this is loading I can actually showcase this I don't want to showcase this but as you can see uh this is kind of like okay I want to bridge from arbitrium to ethereum and then you can select the token and all the details over there so this is quite a cool way to go ahead and test your test your um test your warp out what I will be showing is actually the super Bridge one and I'm going to open it in this other browser while I do that let me quickly open that so then we can kind of test it because I have my wallet here okay so this okay perfect our

warout is deployed let me show this as you can see our warout contracts deployment completed you can see the details over here the chain details and then where it's connected to so it's connected like from base to optimism uh the standard it uses the token symbol and then um yeah you can see the guas which we paid just now um for the deployment and all the details here it's also like saved on my registry file so I can kind of see and access that now what makes this easy is that I'm just going to copy this this is like the yaml file and then I'm going to go over here where I have my let's just close

this open this uh this is my super Bridge sandbox so this is not the live one but this is like just makes it easier for you to go ahead and test and I want to add like a new war so I just copy paste the ammo file here I save it our token was from from base right to optimism and it was the Fay token perfect I think I actually have some space so we might like make a transaction so I have like 90 let's like say 10 review Bridge let's continue dot dot dot so now this is bridging actually

like just the warout which we deployed uh from base to optimism and it's a completely new contract it's minting a synthetic version on on optimism and so it did take like not too long there was like a small error which we had to redo but hopefully as you can see hyperlane warps rout makes it very easy for you to be like I have this token on this this network and I want to bridge it to like another Network um the CLI is like a tool which you can use to quickly configure that and make the changes and just go ahead and deploy and uh the best place is the hyperlane docs I'd also suggest to like join our Discord if you have any questions you can always hit us

over there um but yeah I think this kind of concludes our demo um I'm happy to answer any questions either you or anyone listening might have um hopefully it was not too fast but at least it's recorded so it can be like at 0.5 speed that's right that's right that's for me no this was excellent and uh for the record it was around 10 minutes even with trouble shooting so that's pretty sick U Good Stuff um yeah so uh question for me and crowd if you have any questions for AA please um please post them um and they there we go there we go uh he we do have a question from the crowd uh NP asks um is it possible to

deploy more um I guess more of these Bridges at the same time or are you just limited to one at a time uh no so work brouts you can deploy um for your own cases um like you can later's no limitation on the war routs like each is you can deploy like a war rout to connect to like any network um if you want to connect to like a network which is already on the hyperlane registry that makes it easier because then you don't need to connect your token but you can go ahead with the hlane work rout deployment only um but yeah I I don't believe there is excellent good to know and a great question there uh question from my end um are these routes just limited to uh

token transfers or can we also deploy these routes for say uh um deploying your onchain protocol to be like multi-chain for example if you want to do like call data between chains so War routs are for tur bridging so erc20 uh and I believe like you can kind of check the the the the warp routes which like the the available warp routes uh but they are only for token bridging so I believe uh you can do them for erc2 tokens or 721 um so not extended to other kind of chain messaging however you could use the hyperlink cross-chain messaging protocol for any kind of sending message between them so if War

brouts don't fit your case you can totally use like the mailbox interfaces to kind of communicate the message um War like the the reason for work routs to exist is basically token bridging is one of the most common use cases and we kind of wanted to make it easy for anyone to quickly like spin up like a bridge where they can transfer the tokens um and that's kind of where warrs come in but if they're not suitable for your use case and you kind of just want to use the cross messaging you can totally like look at hyperlanes infrastructure and make your own kind of um implementation amazing amazing uh and I guess in terms of uploading um uploading these um warp routes are they

permissionless in that um if I spin up a new erc20 token and I have one of these configuration files what's the process to um actually get them on the production um uh Bridge yeah so um you could like for for example when chain deployments you could submit to the hyperlane registry so then we can also have that over there so it can make it easier for anyone to kind of connect to that chain as well um for warout deployments um I'm not exactly sure I'm happy to like look into it and get back uh but I do believe you can submit it to the registry and you can have it over there so you can make sure that everyone uses it um there is no like there is no like Central repositor

where we kind of Monitor and make sure like it passes certain checks it's more due to the nature of like open source and being permissionless we really do allow anyone so there could be like workouts which you know which have been deployed by others and they kind of use their own setup or they're like their own layers and agents in between which even H the the the team behind is not really aware of um however if you do want to use kind of the the agents which are operated by you know different partners you can kind of hit us up and be like hey like I deployed this warp route how can I move forward um because then it might make it easier when you directly use partners for like validators and the the agents in between and that's kind of like the common case

which we see um so you can totally like run your infrastructure As You Wish however we do provide that kind of set to make it easier for you to go to production faster um having like already a set of trusted Partners makes it really easy to to provide that that like the agents which you for the Crosset messaging right right on right on awesome stuff uh and I guess um last couple of questions from my before we conclude um is there anything that any Alpha that you can share in terms of things on the road map uh for this year don't have to get into great detail but anything you can perhaps hint at or maybe something that has you excited uh yeah for sure so we do have

like an ERC for uh for the hyan like interoperability is one of the hottest topics this year I think like now everyone has realizing that okay we have all these networks but how do they talk to each other there needs to be like some kind of standard way um I'm really excited to see that standardized and we're working a lot for for our end like building like we building hyper Lane for a long time and now with the ERC hopefully like have more standardized messaging um I think that's like what I'm most excited about um when I joined hyperlane interoperability was the area where I was Keen to learn more on and the more I got in the more I realized there's like a lot to do which is kind of exciting uh but also because it's an area where you're just making standards

at the moment um I definitely think there's going to be like a lot more in the standardization kind of see how people use it um and I guess like the ERC on our end to make like the way we kind of view uh cross messaging by having like a certain interface with modular security is what I'm most excited to see awesome lovely answer and uh yeah I'm also Keen to see how people start to integrate hypin into their adaps and and and deploy their own warp routes um and on that topic um just to Circle back to the last slide you had what's the best way for people to get in touch um if they're having issues or

want to ask questions um should they reach out over uh over X join Discord yes so the hyperlane docs hopefully will provide you like great guides to learn how to get started uh the hyperlane Discord especially the developers channel is a great place to ask any questions you have any kind of troubleshooting you can just kind of copy paste there we have great people on there like most of the team is always online there so the the hyperlane Discord is great um I I would suggest those two places feel free to like ask any questions you might have like to me or anyone on the team as well well I don't want to speak on anyone's behalf but uh I'm hoping like like I do think like we're a very welcom team so any questions you might feel like you could definitely ask on the Discord but if you

want to like um kind of connect with with us on Twitter uh definitely very open um but yeah I'd suggest like the hyperlane Discord especially the developers Channel um pretty active pretty nice questions come in um hopefully you'll get answers there and if not you can just post questions there and we'll see how we can answer that amazing amazing uh and yeah uh seem time has flown uh quite fast as it always does on the show UHA uh thank you so much uh for taking the time and giving that amazing uh overview and uh 10 minute 10-minute demo even with technical difficulties deploying your warout I did not count the technical difficulties in

okay all right it's all good it's all good um but yeah uh this is amazing uh and for folks that uh were watching us live I've actually dropped a link to uh claim your attendance badge on bit badges um so now uh last we we debuted this last week so every week um when you watch us live you have an opportunity to claim attendance badge um to prove your viewership uh of devel and now this week uh Trevor Miller has uh debuted a leaderboard so as you claim these your name will appear on a leaderboard so you definitely want to uh boast about watching every single episode by the end

of the year um if you're watching these live uh so you'll find the link to claim that in the YouTube description as well as dropping it in the um in the chat here uh but just circling back uh a again uh thank you so much uh really appreciate it all the content that AA um was showcasing the template and the docs they will be in the YouTube description shortly after this um uh session is over uh but with that uh I just want to wish everybody very happy Friday happy weekend and we will catch you back here on another great episode of devel next week all right all cheers everyone