Devconnect in Argentina?, Open Intents Framework - The Daily Gwei Refuel #827 - Ethereum Updates

21 Feb 2025 · 30:24

Anthony Sassano runs through the day's Ethereum news on The Daily Gwei Refuel, including speculation that Devconnect could be held in Argentina and the results of the first Beam Chain call. He covers core protocol developer updates, the newly announced Open Intents Framework, a forthcoming Stateless Ethereum book, and Bitwise's donation to Ethereum core developers.

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hello everyone welcome to another episode of Del fuel R up the latest news eum ecosystem I'm your host anthy Sano say the 21st of February 2025 all right everyone let's get into it so a lot of updates to get through because I once again missed Wednesday's episode so apologies for that but to kick things off we have a new job posting from the ethereum foundation here now this just isn't just any job it's not a researcher role it's not a developer role it is a social media manager role so they are looking for a full-time person to manage the ethereum kind of social media presence whether that's on the ethereum Foundation Twitter account or the ethereum Twitter account or really any related entities here they want someone to work on this full-time not just on Twitter but also on farcaster lens Blue

Sky Facebook and Linkedin so if you interested in this job you can go and apply I'll link it in the YouTube description below a lot of people tagged me in this saying that I should apply for it honestly I don't have the time to do something like this full-time and they definitely want a full-time person but I did quote tweet this and say that i' be happy to basically Mentor or help anyone who gets this job and I'll do it for free I don't really care like I have the time to help maybe you know a couple hours a week I would even be able to get on like a call with the person that gets this job uh once a week and be like hey you know this is what I think is working this is what's not you know basically being collaborative with it but at at

the end of the day I think that whoever gets this role is going to be an absolute Powerhouse the theum foundation usually does hire um good people from from what I've seen they do hire effective people from what I've seen uh and obviously the found is very heavy R&D so you probably don't see that directly most of the time or you don't see the work of their their employees most of the time but someone managing their social media accounts you're definitely going to see what their contributions are and definitely going to see what their work is like because it's going to be very public uh for you to see it there so I'm super excited that they've put an official kind of role out there for someone to to manage the the social media I think for the last couple of months it's been a team

of people from within the EF that have some social media experience but have been doing it more on like a part-time basis so I think there's a few people doing it part-time uh which makes like a full-time role but obviously having one person doing it as a social media manager as a as a full-time thing is a lot more effective so I I can't wait to see who gets this role honestly and as I said if you are interested in in something like this you should definitely apply I'll link it in the YouTube description below uh for you to do so then and if you want any help with your application or anything I'm also happy to help with that so you can just tag me in the daily way Discord Channel and then we can kind of uh DM there it's probably the easiest way to get in cont

like with me uh but yeah we'll see we'll see who gets this role uh it shouldn't take too long I think I'm I'm going to assume they probably got a lot of applications for this well you know what I hope they did because there's a lot of people have opinions about how the ethereum social media account should should be run so if those people actually want to affect change this is their chance to do that so I hope that they applied to this as well but we'll see how that all shakes out uh there all right so vitalic tweeted about Argentina today not about the I guess Libra scan Dam coin that was launched a few days ago that there was a lot of controversy around I'm sure a lot of you guys have S seen that but he tweeted about possibly hosting Dev connect in Argentina so I

quot tweeted this and I said you know this is the way to get countries presidents involved in crypto it's infinitely better than having them launch scammy tokens ethereum is for Builders and ethereum really is for Builders ethereum is the ecosystem where you come to do serious long-term sustainable things other ecosystems eh probably not that right the opposite of that um that's why tend to attract the uh very I guess like speculative gamly short-term stuff a lot of the scammers and things like that ethereum obviously has a lot of scamers on it as well but I think the core culture of ethereum has always been about building something that is long-term sustainable and shunning essentially those people that come into the ecosystem only to scam only to grift a lot of the etherum community does that I think that's a key

differentiator between the eum community and other communities here but what I really wanted to focus on was that did vitalic just leak that Dev connect is going to be in arent this year as you guys know Dev connect is the other conference that the EF runs it is more of a casual Devcon uh it's it's a smaller version of Devcon essentially that was birthed during Co because uh Devcon didn't happen during co uh the next Devcon will happen next year I don't know where it's going to be people are saying that maybe somewhere in Africa but I don't know uh but in terms of Dev connect a lot of people have been asking for Dev connect or even Devcon to be hosted in Argentina because Argentina has a very heavy crypto presence there there are a lot of people there or from there or know people there that are in

crypto so it would make a lot of sense especially now that they're coming they're going through a Resurgence in their economy uh you know the new president is doing a lot of drastic things to uh hopefully we we don't know if it's if it's going to work long term yet but things are looking pretty positive right now but you know hopefully bring uh businesses back to Argentina people uh wanting to kind of build there make a home for themselves there and get rid of that that you know sticky inflation that they've had for a little while that hyperinflation even and not the not the the pity little inflation that we complain about you know a few percentage uh uh percentage here and there Argentina obviously has had hyperinflation which is damaging to to everything right and they've had a lot of corrupt politicians over the the

last few decades at least from what I've been told so it seems like things are looking up there and what better place to host Dev connect than Argentina honestly so hopefully it happens if it does I will most likely make the trip out there myself I've never been there but I have plenty of friends that live there close friends as well so I'd be very uh Keen to get there it just takes a long time for me I think I have to fly to the US first and then down to Argentina which means 20 plus hours of travel time and you know the only time I would do that is either if I'm making like a long vacation out of it like I did with Europe last year or if I'm going to an ethereum conference that is run by the EF because as you guys know a

lot of ethereum conferences these days unfortunately are no longer ethereum conferences they are crypto conferences you know eth Denver for example is not eth Denver anymore it's crypto Denver uh and you know e CC seeds in Europe very far away from me but also um from what I've heard it's still pretty heavy ethereum but there are other things happening there uh whereas with Devcon and devc connect they are all ethereum especially Devcon it's like 100% ethereum as everyone who went to Devcon Bangkok last year will know and that's why I like going to those conferences is because that's all I'm interested in I'm really not interested in the rest of crypto guys like you guys know this call me an eth maxi whatever you want but like honestly I look at other ecosystems and I see basically the same thing that ethereum is already doing just in other

ecosystems so it's like okay well ethereum's already either already done that doing that or uh basically planning to do that in the future and ethereum is already a giant ecosystem it's impossible to keep up keep up with everything so I'm just not interested in the rest of crypto especially because most of the rest of crypto is is just pretty much a scam or a grift anyway as as we've seen over the years especially if you've been in crypto for as long as I have you do definitely get jaded to a lot of things here but this is getting a little bit off topic uh as I said like we might be getting Dev connect in Argentina this year I think in terms of like when it's going to happen October or November from from I guess like previous Dev connects that's when they kind of took place there but I'll keep

you guys updated on that all right moving on to some core Dev updates so nixo had a a recap thread here of the latest all cor Dev call talking about Petra and fusaka mainly obviously Petra is going live very soon there was a bug I believe on devnet 6 around EIP 7549 which which is the aesta aggregation EIP uh and there was talk about this and talk about progress on this I don't think that's going to be a show stoer bug or delay anything from what I've seen it still seems like the Fulk is going ahead in early April there but then the more interesting discussion was around fusaka in terms of what we're going to do with blobs what the timing is going to be like what are we going to do with pias is eof going in so on and so forth and then discussions around

Hardware requirements and bandwidth requirements as they as they relate to that there as well as for Cadence and I remember I spoke on the last episode about this and about how there's currently two paths we can take with regards to Fork Cadence we can go down the path of faster Forks like you know every six months or something like that where we do less eips but just faster so essentially it's the same amount of eips delivered in the same amount of time uh sorry delivered in in a faster period of time rather than the you know once a year Fork that we do now or we can separate out scaling uh in terms of like blobs into its own Forks still having these kind of faster six-month Forks uh for for General things I honestly think

that that's probably the better approach because if we're talking about scaling l2s and and scaling ethereum in general it's blobs right blobs is really the thing that we're scaling here so I discussed the other day this um idea from Mark who works on the lighthouse client around blob blob only Forks which essentially would mean that we would do hard Forks maybe once every 3 months or even sooner than that where it would only adjust blobs so essentially we would increase the blob count or we do something like deliver pias on its own you know outside of fusaka for example and maybe we just do a consensus layer only fork uh instead of doing both because uh typically Forks touch both kind of ends of the sorry both sides of ethereum cons the ethereum network the

consensus layer and the execution layer so what if we just split all of that up and we can deliver things faster as I said we're delivering the same amount of stuff just in a faster timeline and this again goes back to what I've been saying for the past few months around this reprioritization of ethereum development we're not necessarily you know adding more people to it adding putting more money towards it we're basically just shuffling the deck here shuffling the the the board and basically saying well we can do all of the the stuff that we're going to do anyway but Faster by splitting it up instead of just having a mega Fork which is I think the better approach you the mega Forks were just basically a result of the fact that everyone wants their stuff in the traditionally the process has been well you you get it into like this big

upgrade and then we do it but now that we have like the C and E now that we have things like blobs it just makes sense to start splitting these things up in order to deliver them faster especially when it comes to blobs which is rather critical and you you know I I discussed this the other day as well around what's critical versus what's you know high priority but not critical medium priority low priority so on and so forth and this is actually something that Georgio's hit on here in his um tweet basically uh talking about how Paradigm is viewing the ethereum's next hard Fork after Petra which is obviously faka the tldd scale the l2s of course upgrade the evm decouple shipping from scoping and researching focus on scale and lock the scope ASAP now you can go read these points for yourself I'll link

the picture in and and the post in the YouTube description below but what I really wanted to to hit on was one point that he made which was basically uh at the same point that I've been bringing up around the fact that we should be prioritizing uh these things and we shouldn't be afraid to ship them once they're ready to go we shouldn't just be doing Mega Forks here and uh he said this here where he said that we think ethereum core development should aspire to do one to two hard Forks a year in the current competitive landscape for that we should de couple shipping scoping and research ethereum research team should be able to service ideas to be added in Amsterdam the hard araka scope and not rush inclusion of ideas in faka and the core Dev team should be able to ship Petra and simultaneously

decide on the faka scope which is what's happening here as well and he also said that that the um Paradigm team that's working on WTH are open to a consensus layer only hard Fork if it means we'd ship wasaka in Q3 of this year um but uh yeah we'll have we'll have more of a conversation about this and what it means for the E and so on and so forth there so I just thought it was a really great kind of I guess thing to to highlight here is that like I'm not the only one thinking like this the core devs are definitely thinking like this they definitely have their priorities right I think in terms of what to do you know scaling the l2s critically important upgrading the evm also very important because that helps the l2s out making sure that we can um move faster

in terms of like scoping out the next the next hard Fork researching the next hard Fork not having to wait till we ship a hard fork in order to scope out the next one or to freeze the spec as you guys know F the faka spec may be frozen within the next you know two to three weeks which means that once it's frozen that's it that's what faku is going to be it's rare for it to get unfrozen sometimes it does in case there is something that is like critical but yeah it's rare for that to happen there so that is faster than we've ever moved before which is obviously really great to great to see there uh but yeah as I said you can go read George's points for yourself I'll link it in the YouTube description below um but yeah we're moving faster as an ecosystem we're

prioritizing the right things I think and I can't wait to see these things go live all right so as you guys know there is a new initiative that was announced by Justin Drake back at Devcon called The Beam chain now this obviously was a source of a lot of controversy with controversy within the etherum community because Justin basically put a 5-year timeline on this but then he followed up with a talk at bankless Summit about the fact that the beam chain may take 5 years to ship but within those 5 years there is so many other things happening and I'm not going to rehash the talk you guys can go watch that it's on bank's YouTube channel but the reason why I'm bringing it up today is because uh Justin published the summary of the first beam call uh that happened so the

TTR is that there were eight new beam teams so eight new teams focused on building out this beam chain uh there there were comments given from six of the main net consensus layer team so that pretty pretty much covers I think all of the consensus layer teams uh uh the current c teams and intros from two new EF coordinators which which is really cool to see so you can actually see the list of teams here some of them are brand new some of them are teams within teams so you can see here that uh for example uh nethermind is going to be building a beam chain client but they already have a execution layer client uh and also Pier 2 which is a staking operator they want to build a beam chain CL client called Lantern which I think is a pretty a pretty apt name there but

also in ter on the on the subject of naming I think the beam chain naming is going to be uh uh changed because there already is projects within crypto known as beam and apparently there was a cease and desist sent um cease and desist letter from a pro from that project that trademarked the word beam so they're looking for new names for the beam chain here I don't know what the the name can be honestly I think it has to obviously fit the theme of what beam chain was trying to essentially relay and what Beacon chain tries to to relay but I guess you guys can come up with a name and and send it to Justin if you if you think it's appropriate uh I don't really have a name in mind to be honest as I said I think that the the client name

Lantern is really cool but like that's a client name it's not something that I would call the beam chain so it has to make sense in that context but I'm sure they come up with a name that's I'm just bik shedding the name right now but in terms of know progress it's being made this is all about coordinating people getting them together and starting development on the beam chain here uh but this is what just one of many projects that is being worked on as you guys know this is being done in parallel to everything else we don't have to wait 5 years or however long this is going to take in order to upgrade ethereum we're upgrading ethereum faster than we ever have before all right so the stateless consensus ethereum team here and this Twitter account that that was created the other day that I shared on the dead

grade Discord uh sorry on the uh on the refu and also on the daily way Discord announced today a release of something called the ethereum stateless book which is a deep dive into every protocol change pushing ethereum towards statelessness so if you are at all interested in stateless ethereum things like light clients like scalability uh improvements that can come from stateless ethereum this is the book for you or website I should say you can go check this out I'll link it in the YouTube description below but just a remind here that statelessness is critically important uh for for light clients as I mentioned for being able to verify the ethereum chain on a light client which means being able to verify it on a smartphone and potentially being able to solo stake from a smartphone that is the Holy Grail right that is

that is just so cool just imagining what that future is like and imagining just how decentralized ethereum can be here right but as well status ethereum allows us to once the relevant upgrades are put in place scale the L1 so scale the gas limit up and they actually have a section on this here where they explain how this is actually going to work in practice so if you're interested in learning more about that you can I'll link all of this in the YouTube description below but I just figured it was worth highlighting this because it it is really important to understanding why this is critical to ethereum why it's a main road map item of ethereum uh and why you should care about it so yeah I'll link that for you guys there but speaking of the ethereum roadmap the ethereum.org team is going to be putting

together an interactive ethereum road map on their website so this isn't live yet but they have started teasing it in this screenshot as you can see here but you guys know the famous road map that balic has published before it doesn't get updated very often what the ethereum.org uh Team wants to do is basically take this road map make it interactive and also keep it as up to date as possible which would be really great because uh we obviously just rely on theal to update it these days cuz it's his his graphic but once it's integrated into the ethereum.org website it'll be there for everyone to see play around with learn more about and it'll be kept up to date which is really exciting there so yeah I'll keep you guys updated on that but as I said this is just a teaser for now all right so L2 interoperability has

been the other big discussion over the last few months uh you know scal the other one so there's two big discussions around l2s right scaling via blobs and the L2 scaling themselves of course uh such as some of these high performant l2s like Mega eth and eclipse and also interoperability if I had to say I would say that interoperability is probably the more pressing issue at this point we haven't hit the point where like L2 fees of skyrocketing or anything like that they're generally quite cheap but interoperability making it all feel like one ethereum chain that is or seems to be the main kind of user experience bottleneck right now and that that is getting fixed at multiple different layers I've talked about this so much before but the reason why I'm bringing it up today is because the ethereum

foundation announced something called the open intense framework and you can go visit the website at open intense. XYZ to learn about this but essentially it is an Initiative for ecosystem wide interoperability accelerated by 30 plus teams from all corners of ethereum this is supposed to be a modular open framework to make it seamless for any chain to get intense into the hands of users and improve cross chain ux essentially an intent is basically what it says there there is an intent to do something so similar to How cow swap Works where you basically have cow stands for uh well the cow and cow swap stands for Coincidence of once essentially what this means is that I come here and I want to buy eth with my usdc and someone wants to sell uh sell

me eth and wants to take usdc for it so there is a coincidence of once right so those things are matched in an intense BAS framework or uh in in a solver based framework this this stuff can all work together and that order is filled and you get best execution you get me protection you get all the good stuff there now we want to take this concept of intense and we want to supercharge it we want to basically make it so that you can do that kind of swapping experience or really any experience across different chains and we want to do that for l2s obviously because l2s right now are fragmented we want to unify them and we want to do that in connection with ethereum L1 so if we can have an open intense framework that is credibly neutral that everyone can use it's

permissionless that uh that isn't owned by anyone and any kind of chain can come along and basically plug into that essentially gives us a way to do uh interoperability uh in in uh I guess like extra protocol because as I said there are in protocol things you can do but this would be considered extra protocol where essentially you have like a Marketplace of people who would just fill these intents essentially or or or kind of bots that would fill these intents so in practice how this would work is that you could be on base and you could be like okay well I'm on base I have eth on base and I want to trade my eth for this fancy new token that just launched on arbitrum well you in traditionally right now at least most of the time you would have to bridge right unless you already have funds on

arbitrum you would have to bridge your eth from base to arbitrum which is not you know hard to do it's actually very quick these days I use um jumper which is a bridge aggregator I should disclose that I'm an investor in them but I use it because it works not because I'm an investor in them um but you can use that get over there a couple minutes right doesn't take very long but the thing is is that that's still very long in the context of uh a user experience it's it's not only long it's also extra clicks I've talked about this a lot before about how the less clicks you can give to users the better uh and it's just not seamless right it's definitely not seamless it requires going to different different apps it requires extra trust assumptions so on and so forth so in this world where

everything's running on intense from my understanding you know I'm not an expert on intents but I'm learning but from my understanding you get that seamless experience of trading on base with your eth but that being able to get that token on arbitrum and then having that token reflected on base right so that's how it would essentially work is that you would basically not have to leave base you'd be able to trade that token it would all happen in one transaction by the way especially with EIP 7702 going live with Petra where there won't be an approved transaction anymore it'll all just happen and it'll happen in the background seamlessly cheaply quickly and you'll be able to to go from there that is the Holy Grail as you guys know the holy Gra is to unify ethereum again make it all feel like one chain and this is a huge

North start for ethereum right now this is an all hands on deck thing this is not something that's not going to be solved guys like it's not a matter of if it's a matter of when for this and as I said we already we've already got a a bunch of different solutions live for making it more seamless to do I guess interoperability but this is just another one of those there so if you want to learn more about this open intense framework you can I'll link it in the YouTube description below um there's a lot of teams involved with this already guys you can see all the logos here all the top teams top l2s they all want to do this they all want to be in intable because it's better for everyone we grow the pie together we make it all feel like one ethereum and

then really the l2s they just compete on on um on apps really at the end of the day they compete on their ecosystem of what they have on their chain and then naturally from there Capital will flow uh and they'll be able to earn Fe revenue from that uh and do what they want with that there all right so I just wanted to give a quick shout out to the Chads over at bitwise as you guys know bitwise has an eth ETF that is actively traded and they also committed to donating a percentage share of their profits to ethereum open source developers so they have donated $100,000 to ethereum open source developers 50% went to the protocol Guild I believe and 50% went to the PBS Foundation which is the proposer Builder separation Foundation uh which is just

absolutely awesome to see so if you do want to support eth and ethereum development and you want to buy an eth ETF there's a no-brainer you buy the bitwise eth ETF you get a really great product with with the ETF but you also support ethereum open source developers here so once again just a shout out to the absolute Chads at bitwise for this definitely the most Crypton native of the ET ETF issuers as well and definitely the biggest eth Bulls we have uh on the ETF side uh in terms of uh being Crypton native but also understanding the ethereum vision and Mission and understanding the value of eth uh there all right last up here just wanted to give a shout out to this new store that was launched so this is ethc community.

store which is basically a place to buy built on ethereum merch so as you can see on my screen there are built on ethereum hats they're are built on ethereum uh t-shirts and hoodies there's uh hoodies with just the ethereum logo here there's also one uh with the with the communism kind of symbol here you can see um on on on the on the shirt here because of the comment that valalik made the other day uh about making communism great again which is obviously a joke but everyone just took it seriously because people people are silly uh and then you got the classic like make ethereum great again hat the ticker is eat so on and so forth and ethereum beanies uh and and even a postar that's that's pretty cool actually and then then the mugs you know what I might buy a mug that's a really

funny mug I might actually buy that cuz I like buying mugs that are conversation starters because I usually have you know when I have friends over we have like a tea and then if I have like a one of my novelty mugs they like ask about it so that's pretty funny there but yeah anyway enough of my rambling about that you can go check out this store for yourself I'll link it in the YouTube description uh below for you to do so there now I just realized I have a few minutes here um which actually was by Design cuz I said I I thought at the start of the episode that I wanted to talk about something with you guys uh generally here and and what I wanted to talk about was with regards to I think there's two aspects to this it's kind of

hard for me to collect my thoughts on this completely because it's still something that I'm I'm thinking about a lot recently but you guys know when it comes to timelines there are like two very distinct groups of people within crypto there are the shortterm dopamine addicted uh gambl kind of type of people that really don't think on timelines longer than like a few days if that right then you have the really long-term kind of people who think you know many years into the future they they're building for many years into the future and they have no I guess like uh care about the short-term day-to-day stuff they've always got their eyes on the prize so to speak and then of course you have everyone else in the middle there so really I guess you could say there's

three distinct categories here but the extremes is what we love in crypto and the extremes is what we see the most of so that's what I've been thinking about a lot recently but the reason why I bring this up today is because your timeline and how you think about timelines is is going to be influenced by what you're exposed to so for example and this may be obvious to people but it's just something that I'm I'm thinking very deeply about recently and trying to uh definitely make sure that I don't fall into this trap here but if you're logging on to crypto Twitter every day for example that platform is designed for the short term tweets are EP ephemeral right they expire after 24 hours not literally expire but you're not going to see them again in your feed after 24 hours right so the whole

platform is geared towards the short-term day to-day and that's fine that's what it's built for right but the problem becomes is that if all you do is spend all of your time on there your brain is literally being trained to only focus on the day-to-day you start pushing all the long-term stuff to the back of your mind and you don't focus on that anymore you just focus on dayto day and then you start thinking oh nothing happened today is crypto dead right which is obviously stupid but like your brain starts thinking that because you've just convinced yourself that or without even knowing it that the dayto day is the only thing that's happening and that's what you should focus on so I think that the The Cure so to speak is to have a varied uh I guess like way of keeping up with this ecosystem and

focusing on this ecosystem limit limiting time on crypto Twitter obviously is a big way there listening to uh podcasts instead of going on crypto Twitter is another way because from a lot of the podcasts that I listen to not the ones that I guess like give daily updates like my my own right for example because I Do cover the day-to-day stuff but I focus on the long term too but like the the the the podcast with like guests that are talking about their apps and their projects they definitely do talk longer term because it takes it takes time to build their thing so so they do that and then you you your your brain re reorients around that you think more longer term there as well reading books is also a really great way of doing it reading history is a really good way of

doing it as well funny enough but essentially you don't want to be spending one you know I guess like too much time in in one I guess mind Paradigm or brain Paradigm where your brain basically uh just thinks too much in one way and not enough in the other as I said I'm still collecting my thoughts around this still trying to formulate a proper thesis around this but I figured it was worth bringing up because I see a lot of you guys especially in the de Discord Channel you hyperfocus on not even just the day-to-day but like the hour by hour stuff and every time I have a conversation with people trying to have a real conversation it becomes frustrating for me not every time but like sometimes when I'm talking and I typically maybe I'm on the other end of the spectrum where I think too much

about the longterm but I typically think about the longterm and stick by the long-term stuff but I have to keep reminding myself that a lot of people don't think like that and they're coming at it from a short-term mindset so if I'm talking about the long-term term and I'm talking to someone who only thinks in short-term ways then obviously there is a mismatch there where essentially we're going to talk past each other there's going to be misunderstanding so I just wanted to make sure that you guys are are aware of this to start with and aware of the phenomenon of this and how it actually works and that that it's real and also uh ensure that you're you're spending more time focusing on the long term versus the short term because things take longer than any of us would expect to to to happen right

and and the thing is is that you can say that crypto moves very very quickly which it does which means that your uh concept of time actually gets warped as well I saw a tweet that the uh Libra Argentina thing uh scam was like 4 days ago it's 4 days ago guys doesn't it feel like a lifetime ago already because crypto just moved so fast but that's what happens when you're spending every day in this industry when you're going on crypto Twitter when you're exposing yourself to Everyday stuff time starts to just get away from you and and your concept of time just gets warped so to prevent that at least it's been working for me is you spend less time on the short-term stuff you know not maybe not too much time on the long-term stuff but you try to sit in the middle here you

try to find a balance and that's what I've been trying to do it's been working honestly um especially when I'm trying to do things like if I'm going and exercising whether it's being like weightlifting or going for a walk or rid definitely riding my bike I can't use my phone but like just generally I I try not to use my phone at all not going on it at all because I'm in the moment I'm I'm just focusing on that I'm not focusing on anything else because if I go on my phone I like you know my my my fingers automatically go to like Twitter and they go to like the trading view app and they go to Discord and then I'm just in this stuff and it's just it's not good it's not good to be kind of so heavily involved in this stuff because

it does affect you uh negatively there but anyway as I said just something that I've been thinking about a lot recently hopefully it resonates with you guys but I think on that note that's going to be it for today so thank you everyone for listening and watching be sure to subscribe to the channel if you haven't yet give it a thumbs up subscribe to newsletter join the Discord Channel and I'll catch you all on Monday thanks everyone