Blockchain week recap, The Merge updates and more - The Daily Gwei Refuel #340 - Ethereum Updates

24 Mar 2022 · 28:55

Anthony Sassano recaps Ethereum news after speaking at Blockchain Australia, where he found newcomers wanted topics like the Merge explained at a high level. He covers Danny Ryan's Finalized post on the Kiln testnet and gives his personal view that the Merge is more likely in July than June, then estimates Ethereum Foundation spending and argues core developers often accept below-market pay for impactful work. Other items include ANZ's Australian dollar stablecoin on Ethereum, Element Finance's first governance steps, a Messari thread on Polygon, Optimism's public goods post and calldata compression, the Arbitrum sequencer's layer 1 fees, and a GitHub-based project recognising open source contributors, with his conflicts disclosed.

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hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the daily great refuel where we cap the latest news in the ethereum ecosystem i'm your host anthony asano and today's the 25th of march 2022 all right everyone let's get back into it after a few days of no refuel actually just only a couple of days right and i know today's episode is coming at you a bit later than usual i'm actually recording it a bit later it's a quarter past 12 right now for me a.m uh i usually put them out at 12 30 a.m but this will probably won't go out until uh until later there but uh yeah so where about being the last couple of days well as you guys know i was at blockchain australia i did this day in sydney on tuesday and the day in melbourne on wednesday in sydney i had a panel with

um uh with mehdi from sigma prime that went really really well i had a lot of people coming up to me saying it was their favorite panel of the day that they learnt a lot you know media and i obviously talked a lot about kind of like eth2 consensus layer merge stuff and we bounced really well off off of each other which was which was awesome i mean we're both super passionate obviously about ethereum and especially all the kind of like ethereum core development going on and things like that so that was a really great chat i'm not sure where to find the recordings yet of all these sorts of things i'm sure they'll be on youtube eventually but if if you guys were able to kind of catch the live stream or actually at the event uh you would have you would have kind of like seen i've seen that talk

but hopefully when i find the links to it i'll be able to kind of like link it to you and on the second day on the wednesday i closed out the day with kane from synthetics we talked d5 we talked kind of like uh uh kind of like layer twos talk alternative layer ones all that sort of stuff there as well which was very very fun conversation uh that we had there too so yeah the the the days themselves were really fun i mean i met a lot of people i met a lot of new people that didn't even know who uh they didn't know who i was as well which is which was cool because i think when people came up to me after my talk on the tuesday and they really wanted to kind of like um uh you know know who i was know what i

was doing you know i know how they could get my my help on things like especially in the education space which is really exciting uh and and this wasn't like your typical crypto conference there are a lot of people there who are very new to crypto a lot of people from government from regular uh like a lot of lawyers from you know a lot of people from the regulatory side and it was interesting getting their perspectives on the different things going on you know from kind of you know in crypto and them kind of like wanting to learn more about it so they can kind of go back to other people and kind of educate them and as i said i got approached from by a fair few people who wanted my help with educating so i'm gonna see where those kind of leads uh lead me essentially but

yeah i mean it's funny because when i was giving the i guess like panel with with media around 82 and stuff like that uh i think you know as i've always said to you guys i think most of the in this industry is perpetually behind by at least like a year on what's happening within the ethereum ecosystem and that goes for absolutely everything and and it goes for at most the core protocol stuff right because a lot of it is very technical a lot of it is very esoteric you don't really care to know about it if it doesn't have a direct impact on its value right and even when it does have a direct impact on each value a lot of people still don't know about it obviously the merge has a massive impact and a lot of people don't know that so i think for me

what really opened my eyes people were really interested in the technical stuff but they needed to explain to them in in to them in such a way where it's kind of from a high level because i think a lot of the technical explanations tend to go very deep very quickly and they lose people and i think also the delivery of the education is really important like for me i try to give the delivery on the refuel as passionate as i can so that you guys can like you know feel the passion i have for this sort of stuff and and kind of like keep you guys engaged with this but i know sometimes you know some of the stuff i talk about can be can be a little boring but i think when you're trying to read about this stuff when you're listening to a

lot of other people talk talk about this it can be way less engaging so i think that's what i've always prided myself on um the fact that i can give like education in a really passionate way and that actually came across it seems for a lot of people as well so i mean all in all i had a ton of fun at this event uh like the last couple days i'm very much looking forward to amsterdam now uh i think as i said this was like i guess less of a kind of it wasn't really an eth conference it was a crypto conference but also there's a lot of new people there i'm looking forward to getting to going to amsterdam because there's obviously going to be a lot of ethereum people there and it's going to be really cool i'm getting a few different talks there and things like

that as well so that's going to be very exciting too so hopefully uh some of you were able to make it to the event and then i saw you there i met a lot of people so i don't remember everyone i met uh and if you didn't make it hopefully you're able to kind of like watch the streams as well everything was kind of like live stream then if i find the links to the videos or if anyone else has them please share them in the discord i know there's a lot of people kind of looking for them right right now all right on to all the updates from the last few days that i've missed for you guys so danny ryan put out the latest edition of the finalized blog post series this is number 34 going over i guess the kiln test nets and basically you know

everything that's happening on the merge side so i mean i summarized for this for you guys last week there were obviously a couple of bugs in the kiln test net the biggest one being the prism bug uh client which caused prism to kind of like stop producing or start to produce invalid blocks and things like that uh now because of that there is a lot of um testing that needs to happen right there's a ton of testing that still needs to happen uh and as i mentioned on the last refuel which i've seen a few people kind of like talk about this but i don't think i i said i didn't think that the june merge kind of like would still happen i think maybe you know july is still on on the table but june was kind of like off the table i still think

that but there are certain other people saying that they can still see a dune merge we'll have to see as i've said to you guys before it's just the target window i'm just giving my personal opinion based on kind of like the information that i'm seeing and if it happens in june still then good i'm glad to be wrong like i'm not trying to be right about this sort of stuff i'm just trying to you know get you guys the most direct up-to-date information that i can but as i've said before i still think it's more likely to be july than june um and just because of the fact that the kiln test net didn't go you know as flawless as possible even though that went really really well it didn't go as flawless as possible and there's still a lot of testing that needs to be done so

i wouldn't be surprised to see it in july or even i mean even august sort of thing and as i said last time i don't think these things are delays because there never was a kind of like date given but i also think that no one's gonna really care if it comes two to three months later than the projected kind of like date here i really think that people underestimate like how much you know crypto moves fast but at the same time there are periods where crypto moves really slow um you know in sort of in certain areas and i don't think it's going to matter too much at the end of the day so i guess go read this blog post it's very very short it's got links to a bunch of other kind of like things as well to read but definitely go read it it'll be in the

youtube description um and on the merge as well terence from the prior labs team uh has kind of like shared a screenshot of uh what happens when proof of stake gets activated on the prism client so you can see here or the prism validator client you can see here that there are a couple of pandas uh kind of like uh made an ascii code here and people's like activated on this on the screenshot here and i think the different uh validator clients will have different ways of displaying this information which i'm really looking forward to each of them and seeing what they do because yeah i mean this is only going to happen once right and this is a very very big deal and i'm very much looking forward to seeing my validators kind of like spit these this ascii art out um you know

depending on what what what they what they're kind of do with it here so very much looking forward to seeing that go forward there uh next up we had an ef ecosystem support program allocation update for q3 and q4 2021 uh this was a reminder about this uh i think i covered it on the refill when this came out on february 15th uh last month there but the reason why i wanted to talk about this is because it's topical right there's been a lot a lot of talk i guess over the last few days especially about funding of things and core dev funding and all that sort of stuff now what i wanted to talk about here is the ethereum foundation specifically there was a bunch of discussions that were having in the discord channel today about what lithium foundation's burn

rate is like how much money are they spending each year out of their treasury and there was a kind of like tweet that was brought up i think from 2019 or or a comment from 2019 where um someone gave the ballpark figure i think it was vitalik that the af in 2019 was going to spend 25 million dollars or something like that right or 30 million dollars in that yuck i'm coming with exact figures now if they were spending that much in 2019 which was obviously the depths of the bear market there was a lot less going on in core developer land then how much would they be spending in 2022 i projected that they would be spending anywhere from 50 to 100 million in 2022 now the ef treasury at least the public version a public um uh uh treasury that we can see is about

a billion dollars worth of eth so let's just say and i actually think it's more accurate to say that the ef is spending about 100 million dollars in 2022 given the fact that they have a lot of grants programs going like like the ef ecosystem grants program they have a lot of um other initiatives that they're doing like the client incentive program they have a lot of people on their payroll so let's say the ef has a 100 million dollar run rate for just this year now they're they have they have they have fiat reserves obviously from cashing out eighth but the ether they have left in their public treasury is worth about a billion dollars now let's say they keep ramping that up and they spend 150 million next year and 200 million the next year right it's gonna it's probably gonna keep ramping up

that doesn't leave them with that much money like the treasury may seem large because you you know you see it there okay billion dollars a lot of money but then when you kind of like map out the run rate of the ethereum foundation you kind of see that okay well to manage that treasury well and to make sure it lasts especially with all the stuff happening in the you know and all the stuff that needs to be paid for in the ethereum ecosystem it can kind of run out relatively quickly now then you dive deeper into that you say okay what's this money being spent on individually is enough money going to core developers all this sort of stuff there's been a lot of discussions around this about this recently and as i said in the discord channel i think it's kind of common knowledge that the ethereum

foundation doesn't pay market rate uh and and kind of like won't probably ever pay a market rate for people um like core developers or otherwise and they could probably make more money working uh in somewhere else in the ecosystem but as i said in the discord channel i think for a lot of these people like money's important but the reason they stay at the ethereum foundation instead of just going somewhere else is because the work that they're doing to them at least feels much more impactful much more important to them than work that they could be doing elsewhere and i think for people who don't uh have a passion and don't kind of like really care about the work they do they struggle to understand this because a lot of people at the end of the day like out you know inside and outside of

crypto they're just going to work a job for the money and that's totally fine there's nothing wrong with that but unless you actually work for more than money you won't understand why people would take a pay cut or take like less money than they could get otherwise uh you know elsewhere to work on more impactful stuff i did this when i joined a um a crypto job in 2019 at set protocol i took a pay cut from my previous job that's because at my previous job i kind of like hated it i wasn't doing the work that i wanted to be doing at all it wasn't a crypto job or anything like that and then i joined set and it was amazing like i would have worked for even less than what i was on because it was just so good i didn't even care about the money at that point

and that was a point where i wasn't i didn't have a large crypto portfolio this was 2019 guys like i definitely didn't have a large crypto portfolio but for me personally i was very very happy at that point like i was i was just as happy as i am now to be honest right um and that's because i was doing the work that i felt had a lot of impact i was very interested in the work it was very exciting for me now i stayed there for about 18 months and then i kind of like left because i'm like i want to focus on doing more stuff with the daily grade i want to focus on doing more kind of like angel investing helping teams out in the early stages doing advising all that sort of stuff and i you know i still do that to this day right it's been over a

year since i kind of like left set and i um i'm still doing this to this day because that's what i find to be the most impactful work that i can do and i do all the daily great stuff for free because i'm able to do that but also because like i just love doing the review i love doing the newsletter i love kind of talking in the discord channel with you guys um and i think that translates to a lot of people like a lot of the core developers in ethereum they love what they do they feel like they're making so much impact like how often in technology in in the world in your life are you going to be be able to work directly on something as impactful as the ethereum core protocol not not very often right and i think a lot of these

people are just concerned with making sure that they can cover their bills and and they're kind of like getting paid you know what they consider to be a fair compensation even if it's not market rate and they're fine with that they're just going to do all their work and and they're fun they're having fun with that and that's totally on there like no one's forcing them to work for less pay like i'm telling you right now guys every single ethereum core developer could easily get a job anywhere else they wanted in this ecosystem and for probably for more pay but there's a reason that they're not doing that obviously there's more than just like them working on impactful stuff they have a loyalty to to ethereum and that that plays into it of course and stuff like that but you know there's there's a reason there and i know you know peter's

been very loud from the geth team recently and he recently and kind of like people are thinking that he might jump ship over to to avalanche maybe he will right but i think in peter's case as i said last time it's it you know that money is one one side of it there's also the side of like burnout right like a lot of these people have been working on this stuff for a very long time and they just want to change they just burnt out and that's totally fine too like we shouldn't expect someone to stay in the same role for bloody you know 20 years of their life like there's a lot of people who just especially the ones who are passionate about their work and want to do impactful work uh they just get burnt out and they want to change and that's totally totally fine as well

so i guess that's kind of like my perspective on this whole kind of like funding debate and things like that i really do think people need to see the other side of this and see that at the end of the day you know maybe you uh want to just do stuff for money maybe money is everything to you at this stage in your life and that's totally fine but for a lot of other people there are things that matter to them way more than money and money is really just a tool and if they they've got enough money coming in that they can pay their bills they can live their life in in kind of like comfort wherever they are uh they're happy doing that not everyone wants to buy a lambo not everyone wants to buy luxury you know items not everyone wants to live in a fancy house

a lot of people just want to be able to live comfortably and by live comfortably i mean pay their bills without worrying about them uh and kind of like be able to kind of afford some luxuries here and there of course obviously but you know most people don't want to don't and help their families too right but most people don't want to to kind of like go and and buy lambos and luxury items and stuff like that they they would rather do much more impactful work than that there so so yeah anyway going to move on from that uh to the next update which came uh chloe white here who i actually met at um blockchain australia in real life um she shared uh something today about anz the australian new zealand kind of like bank in australia here one of the top four banks has issued the first australia

dollar stable coin called the a dollar dc which is a weird ticker for a stable coin i thought initially it was a play on ac dc which is obviously a very popular rock band uh that came out of australia but i'm not sure it might be that but yeah it's called a dollar dc and here chloe lists like how did anz do it well they have a counterparty with zero cap uh with which australia's only full-service crypto platform they have custody via fire blocks they have audit they did an audit with open zeppelin they doing aml with chain analysis and they used the ethereum blockchain that's why i'm talking about it right this is pretty cool i mean obviously we're all about going bankrupt and trying to disrupt banks and all that sort of stuff i'll be honest guys i don't think banks are really going

anywhere uh i think banks will adapt pretty quickly to a crypto world i've always said that i think that the real innovation of d5 and of crypto is that it gives users a choice we no longer have to use a bank right to do these sorts of things we can do it on our own but the banks are still going to be there people are going to want to use banks there are plenty of people who don't want to manage their own finances and they shouldn't have to if they don't want to and there's always going to be services available for them whether they be banks or other kind of financial services so that's why it's really cool to see that you know there's a bank here like anz getting involved with this and as i've said before like other banks like combank our commonwealth bank in

australia have been very progressive with crypto they announced that they were going to enable crypto trading on their platform uh that was supposed to happen in q1 this year i mean we're at the tail end of q1 now and i haven't heard anything about that obviously banks move slower than than anything so that's still probably coming uh but i don't you know i don't think it's going to um it's going to be uh to to be in kuwait but i also heard a stat that i think 900 000 of um of uh the commonwealth banks kind of like customers had sent money from their bank accounts to a crypto exchange and just to contextualize it here guys australia's population is only 25 million and uh only the people over 18 are really like have a bank account right so you can discount like all the

all the children all the babies all that sort of stuff and a lot of teenagers and just count the adult population and this was just commonwealth bank as i said there's four major banks in australia and there's a bunch of other banks as well so that's not 900 000 that's a lot of people when you when you kind of like contextualize it like that so i think that that stuff's coming and i think you know anz doing these kind of like stable coins and australian dollar stable coins as well is really cool uh it just shows that they're really looking at this sort of stuff and they're dabbling in it so so cool to see that from from anz all right so element finance announced uh the first step toward decentralization by opening up applications for delegates and members of the governance steering council so

there's a thread here about this and there's also a blog post very cool to see this i mean this does mean that uh i i mean i assume this means a token is coming uh disclosure i'm an angel investor in element finance but i haven't heard anything about a token or anything like that but to actually decentralize and to have like a delegate governance system and all that sort of stuff you need you need a token right i mean it's pretty obvious so uh just some i guess like some uh some alpha to pay attention to maybe there's gonna be an air drop i'm not sure as i said like i am an angel investor but i have no access to information about this sort of stuff like i don't know what's happening there i'm just assuming that since they're trying to decentralize there is

going to be a token but i think it's really cool when i see something trying to create like a doubt for itself but also doing something different to the traditional dallas like there's actually a lot of discussions at the blockchain week about dows and i talked to a lot of people about how i think that dallas have a massive issue in that a lot of them try to be like super decentralized from day one and they have like a leadership void that usually gets filled by the wrong people some of them are really just multi-sigs you know decentralization theater some of them don't put any effort into actually decentralizing and it ends up just being a complete mess and the project fails because of that but i think element finance has actually put a lot of effort and a lot of work into this they're doing it the right way

they're doing it relatively slowly they're not just trying to go way into it you know they haven't even issued or announced the token yet but they're already doing kind of like uh delegate call for delegates and members of the of kind of like the governing steering council which is the gsc here so so yeah i mean i highly recommend giving this blog post to read to learn more about this but i thought this is really cool uh and they're kind of like one of the better i guess structures that i've seen in the dao space recently all right so pseudo theos is back with another banger thread uh this is all about zk evms and why it is a massive breakthrough for ethereum scaling now if you're not following pseudo theos uh be sure to do so this is an up and coming uh kind of like person that i've spoken

about a lot recently on the refuel and you know i i kind of like always look for these kind of like um people napoleon was one obviously pseudothis is another and i love seeing them because they just put together such amazing information in really digestible formats and this is just another kind of like one and this thread isn't actually very long here uh this is actually just a few tweets so definitely give this a read i just wanted to highlight it for you guys it'll be linked in the youtube description for you to do so uh but yeah pseudo theos is a banger follow so definitely go give give them a follow there all right so jerry sun here who's uh works in research at masari put together a thread on polygon so he starts off the thread by saying many no polygon for its

side chain or the pos chain as i like to call it cheap gas fees fast transaction through port all the good stuff but beyond that sidechain the company is building a suite of layer 2 and infrastructure products as well and you'll be and you'll 100 be hearing more about it over the coming months and then he goes on to explain why over 12 tweet threads here now obviously you guys know i'm an advisor to polygon so i talk about them a lot on the refuel but they're doing a lot of great work i mean massari has a whole thing here and and they have an image here you can see polygons kind of like product stack and all the products that they're building so much going on like just on the l2 side alone is just just plenty going on here um you know polygon hermes

mide and nightfall and zero uh so much going on and then you can kind of like scroll down and he kind of explains all this explains each of these solutions but what he also goes on about is talks about is kind of like the thematic token as well in the in the report here you can see i'm sorry uh i don't want to talk about the token too much because obviously i have a lot of conflict of interest here being an advisor obviously hold matic tokens just super disclosure there but in this report they talk about the medic token which doesn't get talked about that much and i highly recommend giving it a read because it's actually pretty interesting about how the magic token will be you know will go beyond the pos chain and what it's actually going to evolve into revamping the tokenomics all

that sort of stuff there but i won't talk about too much about that because of my conflicts of interest there i want you to go read this blog post if you want to get that alpha and read this thread from jerry sun of course this will be linked in the youtube description below for you to do so all right so optimism has a blog post out today called ethers phoenix which is taking a step back from the optimizations and protocol minutes to renew remunerate on ruminate on coordination public goods funding and where optimism fits in now you guys will know or some of you will know that about optimism is a retroactive public goods funding initiative where they basically give all of the profits from their centralized sequencer to public goods in a retroactive way and they're talking about kind of like summoning you know

the ethos phoenix here the angel who rewards you for summoning it a kind of reverse rocko's basilics and i mean this is all about you know i i was talking about finding you for but all about doing public goods funding in a more efficient and effective way i highly recommend reading this blog post it's pretty short here but uh i the reason i wanted to bring it up is because i've been talking a lot about funding recently and about how we need put more public goods funding there's obviously the protocol guild which all of you should have donated to on uh on bitcoin grants i think bitcoin grants matching around is pretty much ended now uh by the time you you will have watched this but there's so much going on in the in the funding space right now guys and just a refresher on what the protocol guild is

they're trying to get projects to kind of like donate to this kind of protocol guild like a portion of their treasury in order to kind of like give back to uh the core developers and other kind of like interested parties in that time in that arena there and uh they're aiming to raise a lot of money they're trying to get this protocol guild to like you know seven eight nine figures potentially ten figures uh uh one day right um and kind of give a portion of that sorry trying to kind of give all of that to public goods and then you have optimism doing this with the retroactive public goods funding there's just a lot going on and i i recommend creating this blog post for more context around that as well all right so there's been a bit of confusion lately about gamestop and what

they're doing in the nft space they've obviously announced partnerships with two l2s immutable x and uh loop ring here but immutablex put out a thread today about how their partnership is going to go with with gamestop basically building a marketplace all that sort of stuff and they also mentioned like how loop ring is working with gamestop as well but it's not kind of i guess say um a zero-sum thing here the game's always working with both of these solutions there's going to be things happening on both of them uh and i think that's why immutable has put out this thread because there seemed there was a bit of confusion around this i think uh so yeah definitely give this threat a read if you were confused about you know why why gamestop is working with both immutable and loop ring there are reasons for both and there are things

being done on both ends there as well all right so arbitrary a tweet a few a couple of days ago about the arbitrary sequencer being a top spender on ethereum over the past 24 hours you can see here that they uh spent uh in the last 24 hours uh at time of the screenshot was sixty four thousand dollars or twenty one point six eight yeah which is i think point six percent of the um the total ethereum network now as i said to you guys before layer twos are eventually going to take over pretty much all of the ethereum layer one block space probably won't happen for a little while still but we're gonna replace all of ethereum l1 kind of like transactions with just l2 proofs and um and call data which will take up all the

block space and and basically be responsible for uh all the fee revenue being generated on ethereum l1 so i just wanted to kind of highlight this this tweet here because i've been talking about this a lot on the on the refuel over the past oh god it's been a while now you know it's been probably a year at this point where i've been talking about this kind of like phenomenon that's going to happen but to see it kind of like happening in in such a big way and to see kind of like the arbitrary sequence and other l2 sequences paying l1 and actually doing what we said it was going to do is really really cool so so i kind of just wanted to highlight that for you guys there all right uh speaking of uh optimism and their optimizations that are coming to their network their call data

compression is actually going live on mainnet this thursday guys which is today uh yeah it is it's it's thursday today right so if this is going live today may or may not be live by the time you watch this video but this means that uh fees on optimism are coming down uh pretty pretty quickly i think uh sorry pretty significantly because of the core data compression i remember they got about 40 uh less 40 reduction in fees here so that's actually huge i think i don't know what the fees are right now if i bring up l2 fees.info right now and i check like the optimism swap fee is that 51 cents so if they're gonna let's let's say they actually do reduce it by 40 right that's uh that's coming down to 30 cents guys so we're going

from 51 cents to 30 cents just from from this optimization alone for a for a swap and it's going to even keep coming down even further than that due to uh more optimizations coming and also uh the the future erp's that are coming as well so like later two transactions are just so cheap right and this is a gray is at 40 right now so when grey was at 20 it would have been even cheaper than that oh god it's just it's amazing to see like how quickly the l2s are getting cheaper and cheaper and the l1s are actually the alternative l1s are actually getting more expensive the cheap ones that have been kind of like talking about how they're like super cheap they have super cheap fees they're actually getting more expensive because of the fact that they don't have what the l2s have which is the magic of

basically being much more scalable being able to kind of like do all these optimizations without kind of like sacrificing security or decentralization because they inherit all that from ethereum layer one really is just the beauty of l2s coming coming to fruition here i'm super excited to see this continuing to evolve and continuing to see more optimizations come to the network here all right finally here we have gitpo up which is a uh an announcement here from them saying that they're going to be launching on april 7th so open source contributors get ready to crank claim some of your pop-ups here you can go to to check out this blog post with uh and kind of like this sorry explains what git pop is here so the one liner is git pop exists to memor

memorialize software contributors as contributions as pops we're beginning by building a platform for minting powers based on github activity our inspiration for building git prop comes from wanting to solve challenges of recognition reputation building that we've experienced firsthand as open source developers and maintainers so go and i guess like read this blog post for more information about this i think this is a really really cool kind of like project i love anything got to do with pop to be honest like it's such an awesome project there's such an awesome community uh they're such an awesome community as part of the pop community and there's so much going on on this front and there's so much going on in the identity space just in general it's just cool and and they're also kind of like hiring here so if you're interested in being any of these people

community and social strategy and operations design or engineering you can definitely check out this blog post for links to all of that as well as i've said plenty of plenty of times to you guys like everyone in crypto is hiring but i think you shouldn't take a shotgun approach i think you should take a targeted approach as well and kind of look for teams that you actually want to work for because as i said earlier like working on something that you love is way more important than anything else unless you're just in something for the money if you're just insane for the money then you wouldn't probably care where you work but uh if you do if you want to have impact if you want to do something that's really really cool you know git pop is definitely a cool team to work for so definitely go uh go check

this out i'll link it in the youtube description for you uh i think that's it i know i i had a couple of days to cover here i think i covered most of the things that kind of like happened over the past couple of days and i may sound more tired than usual that's because as i said i'm recording this later than usual and i'm still recovering from the conference it's funny because like the flight was only like an hour or so to sydney and then an hour or so back to melbourne but it was the first time i'd been on a plane since covered and it's first time i'd probably traveled since kind of like cove it happened so basically over two years and it's just for some reason made me like super tight super run down so hopefully i wasn't i didn't sound too tired on on

the refill today but and and hopefully i'll be back into the swing of things tomorrow are probably there but on that note i'm going to end it today so thank you everyone for listening and watching be sure to subscribe to the channel if you haven't yet give the video a thumbs up subscribe to the newsletter join the discord channel and i'll catch you all tomorrow thanks everyone