Avado supports Rocket Pool, L2 talk and more - The Daily Gwei Refuel #325 - Ethereum Updates

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hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the daily great review where we cap the latest news in the ethereum ecosystem i'm your host anthony sosano and today's the fourth of march 2022 all right everyone let's get into it so another reminder from trent van epps here today as part of his ongoing series of i guess like tweets about what's going to happen when the merge goes through or post merge so today's tweet was the merge proof of stake will not reduce fees on mainnet now this is something that i have been tooting my horn about or turning the horn about four months now and i've told you guys that i see plenty of people out there thinking that the merge or proof of stake or eth2 whatever whatever you want to call it is going to significantly or any or materially reduce gas fees on layer one main net

now as you all know it was not going to do this it basically has no effect i mean the block times are going from 13 seconds to 12 seconds but that is not really going to have a material effect as you have seen over the last few weeks though that when the activity on chain goes down the gas fees go down at the end of the day guys the gas fees the the fee market is really just the function of supply and demand demand for block space supply uh you know is limited so there's so if when there's more demand prices go up and there's less demand the prices go down simple as that there is literally i mean it's not complicated like um but the thing is the merge slash people take does not do anything to reduce fees uh obviously as you guys

know ethereum's taking the modular scaling approach so to reduce fees we're leveraging layer twos and layer one improvements will go towards uh uh utilizing or sorry improving layer twos as well so and you know trent goes on to say in these tweets smaller blocks slash slot times do increase available block space but not significantly that's that 13 seconds to 12 seconds block times that i talked about an average block space is only one input which influences fees the other being demand as i mentioned uh near term scaling a lot of phase will be on layer twos and i mean i actually would say like near term and even long-term would just be on layer twos but i think what trends are kind of like saying here is that you know once the merge is done we're gonna be really really focused on getting these layer one upgrades done

you know obviously sharding bank shotting um statelessness state expiry uh erp 4488 to reduce costs for roll-ups and and adding kind of like blob transactions and stuff like that all that's going to help significantly with scaling ethereum but that is not happening at the time of the merge the merge is literally as i mentioned before just going from proof of work to proof of stake that's the only thing that kind of like happens guys we're just hot swapping out the consensus mechanism now i'm making it sound simple but it's not it's obviously a very big undertaking and it's a very big achievement but uh the end users really aren't going to feel anything from this i i don't think i think the most the end users will feel is more predictable block times but even then i don't think there's gonna be much much kind of like difference felt there

but in saying that shortly after that hopefully about six months after that we'll have the shanghai update go live which brings kind of like more scalability to layer twos uh but later twos already are getting like so cheap lately guys i mean i know they're also influenced by the layer one gas cost but a swap on arbitrary optimism right now is one to two dollars i think i saw it at that's pretty crazy right um for for leveraging ethereum security i know you know you can get cheaper swaps elsewhere and that's that's all well and good but i think you know the costs have come down a lot they were like four five six dollars seven dollars eight dollars for a swap right now we're at the one two two dollar mark as i said influenced by layer one gas fees um to an extent but

also these roll-ups are doing significant improvements on their own without having to touch layer one or change layer one they're kind of like optimizing themselves and bringing more efficiency at layer two you know arbitrary doesn't even have nitro live yet and they've managed to squeeze out all of these improvements so very very awesome to see that but if you wanna i guess read trent's previous tweets there's three other tweets here about kind of like what's happening i guess going into the merge you can just click through he's kind of quote tweeted it each time he's talked about it so definitely go check those out and those of you who don't know i mean trent has been around for a while i talk about him a lot on the refuel he's an ecosystem person at the ethereum foundation so he's across pretty much everything got to do with core dev i

would say like i mentioned yesterday i have ben edgington is really great with keeping up into the weeds with eth2 stuff i would say that trent is really great on keeping up with pretty much everything on the eth1 and eth tooth stuff but maybe from like a bit of a higher level but also from the community level as well like he's very involved in i guess talking to different people within the community different projects and stuff like that and making sure that they're all ready for major upgrades he was instrumental in making sure a lot of the wallets and infrastructure providers were ready for erp-1559 and he still helps with uh uh helps them to this day um and he's also the the guy behind stateful works which is a uh a kind of like initiative for ethereum cultural artifacts and i've talked about this before there was the one five five

five and then nft series which was run by state for works and there was also the uh the book the um oh man the beacon book that was uh that was kind of produced by state for works as well so trent's doing a lot of great work and i'm loving these tweets from him uh lately all right so superfood shared that avado and now offers support for running rockapool minipools so as superfood says here this improves access to a decentralized staking solution for many people who otherwise couldn't participate so the full details you can check out the blog post which i'll link in the youtube description below i think they only support prism right now uh it seems and then nevada kind of replied and said they're planning to support multiple options before the eth2 merge and they are monitoring the development closely so and then they say client

diversity is one of their goals we're supporting other train implementations as well but you know it's pretty cool i mean obviously you know the fact that they just have prism right now maybe a deal breaker for some people that don't want to spin up the supermajority client which is which is totally fine but i'm sure they'll be adding other ones uh relatively soon now for those of you who don't know what avado is basically they build themselves as a plug-and-play blockchain computer to run dapps essentially you can go to their website you can purchase one of their avado kind of i guess boxes here which comes pre-loaded with an operating system that allows you to just kind of do a one-click install of different kind of blockchain nodes clients validators all that good stuff there and it makes it super super simple to do those sorts of

things and not just for the blockchains themselves but now for the services around them like a rocker pool and a bunch of other ones too so if you don't know what avada was haven't checked them out before definitely do so i mean you can just go to their website like here at ava ava.do you can kind of like see here there's the vato cloud use cases hardware you can buy from them uh they you buy a little nux kind of a kavado i7 uh and they give you a price and everything here uh and then there's different kind of like models as well so you can go check this out if you want just a simple kind of like box to run uh nodes on to run your staking software and all that sort of stuff um i personally opted to build my own as you guys know my own staking

box it used to be in the background of my videos simply because i wanted like full and total control over the hardware plus i wanted it to look cool as well like not to say that these boxes look bad or anything but they're quite quite simple right like they just um you know if i go to the hardware as you saw they're quite simple kind of like boxes looks a little bit like a modem or a router or something like that which is totally fine i mean if you just wanted to blend in this is a great solution for you but for me i wanted to be a more aesthetic to mine like as you can see around me i love having things on display around me so i opted for the uh the the kind of like more um the more noisy kind of like set up there

but it's all just kind of like the same parts at the end of the day i mean as i said like there's different kind of specs of um of the avada hardware there's the i7 which is an intel i7 with 32 gig of ram 2 terabytes of ssd storage and it's fanless as well which means 100 silent that'll set you back 1600 usd but this is kind of like the uh um the top of the range one so this will allow you to do everything that you need to do in order to run obviously need two validator beacon node and an eth one node uh but you'll also be able to kind of like uh run other other nodes and other kind of um i guess validators and other networks as well so if you just want to kind of like run um i guess like

an ethereum full node and just stake then the albedo i5 would definitely be fine for you and that will set you back 1099 us dollars so yeah there's a few different options there for you to choose from but as always you can build it yourself if you want to and the cool thing is about i guess like um the software is that the software can be installed on any hardware the the software that's on the evado so i mean i've gone blank on the name right now there's a specific name for the software that i've just kind of like forgotten here but um yeah i've installed it on other kind of like pieces of hardware before and it works fine so there's no need to to buy a nevada kind of like plug and play device if you don't want to but that's probably the easiest way to get

started with all of this all right so l2 beat has a new diagram on a zk syncs page that kind of explains how zk syncs or smart contracts works you can go to the page here um i'll link it in the description but it kind of like shows how smart contracts work on on zk sync or sorry how the i think smart contracts work so you can see here the main roll-up contract is identified with the verifier with the upgrade uh kind of like uh gatekeeper and with the governance contract as as well so as you guys know l2b provides more information about the l2s than literally any other website in existence by far i mean this is the only website that i use for all this information i i don't think

it's documented anywhere except maybe the official websites of the different kind of i guess l2s out there but even then they have it's kind of like buried in their documentation not on purpose but just because they have a lot of documentation whereas on l2b it just kind of pulls all the relevant information out it highlights it in red it tells you kind of like what the biggest risks are it gives you links to all the different kind of like contracts and stuff like that which is what we want to see and and kind of like their latest edition is kind of like zk sings contracts obviously zk sync's been getting a lot of attention lately because they have their zk vm on test net but this is really really cool to see that there's just kind of like more stuff here and there's obviously links to more references and

resources you know the funny thing is is that you can go to the l2b.com website click onto each of these l2s scroll down read all the stuff on l2b and then click through to each of these kind of like references to learn even more about all of this sort of stuff and you could probably spend a good like i mean week two weeks or something just going through all of this like i mean not not not straight right but like you could spend like a good amount of time just going through each of these projects and then going to the references and kind of like reading about how it all works and you'll learn pretty much everything there is to learn about l2s at this stage i would say i mean they're all implementing different kind of like solutions obviously some are optimistic roll up some of zk roll

up some of the lydiums some are even plasma some hybrids i mean there's so much going on um but you you know clicking through and reading about uh the different solutions and reading all the different resources out there is probably the best way to get caught up with everything layer 2 like that's if you want to become like a layer 2 expert right don't do all of that if you're just interested in staying at the high level of the of the l2 stuff which you probably only need the refuel for that but if you want to dig deep really really deep you can do that and they link to the the documentation of each of the kind of like solutions i mean if i'm just on arbitrary's page now you can go to the arbitrary documentation which is at developer.ofchainlabs.com and you can see kind of like everything here and and

go through the developers kickstart uh tutorials um you know how the messaging works i mean look at all these guys like this is just one section this is messaging between layers there's token bridging confirmation and finality like i mean even as a non-dev you can just read through all of this and kind of like see all the stuff that's gone into this sort of stuff and how you know kind of like not complex it is but how detailed it is and how much kind of like thought has gone into going into everything there so definitely do that if you're interested in learning more about altoona you know as i've said before the perfect time to to learn about this sort of stuff is when the market is quiet i know the market seems to be kind of like heating back up again but when i say market

being quiet i mean like we're in this kind of like range and there's just kind of like not many people around and uh the things are much quieter i mean twitter is still so quiet i mean the most things i'm seeing on twitter lately is just the ukraine russia stuff i hardly even see much crypto stuff anymore but just generally with the crypto stuff it's still super quiet and if there is talk about it it's usually about the ukraine russia stuff which to be honest i mean i'm i'm glad there's a lot of talk about that because obviously you know this is crypto's kind of like moment a lot like a crypto is is really entering the mainstream here i mean just today actually not to go off topic here but i think this is pretty on topic but just today we saw that i believe um one of the governments one

of the western governments kind of like ordered that the centralized exchanges make it hard for russia to get around their sanctions by using centralized exchanges so obviously i guess crypto at least on the centralized exchange site is pretty much integrated with the financial system at this point like it is considered part of the worldwide financial system which is pretty wild to think about and at the end of the day we are building these tools like ethereum you know bitcoin the layer twos all that sort of stuff to be neutral so there's the governments can't order ethereum to basically block transactions or censor transactions or or freeze funds or anything like that obviously that's still all possible if uh the network is being kind of like overtaken by a 51 attack or if the miners decide to

collude and census transactions but it's extremely extremely difficult it is very very unlikely to happen um on ethereum and bitcoin that is but on other chains you know it's easier like there are some chains out there that are just super super centralized that it's very easy to kind of like block these stuff up so i think you know people have laughed them before by when i've said that these kind of like blockchains need to resist nation states because if they can't do that then they're pointless well i don't think people are going to be laughing for very much longer guys i mean this is the time where the centralization does get tested like if the government's around the world the the the us government the european governments the you know um the uh the asian governments if they all kind of like came together and had the same

narrative where they're like well we need to stop uh you know whether it's russia or someone else we need to stop them using crypto to get around uh our sanctions well i mean they'll go for the centralized exchanges first which is obviously the lit path of least resistance then they'll probably go for stable coins they'll start they'll they'll ask stablecoin issuers to freeze addresses that they suspect not that they can prove but they suspect are involved with illicit activity and of course it's gonna get frozen straight away because you know it there's the centralized exchanges all the centralized operators of these stable coins are not going to say no to the us government they're going to be like okay well i mean we'll freeze it for now but like uh uh kind of like if they want to push it further they can fight it and

basically be like well we'll freeze it but you guys gotta you guys gonna have to kind of like prove to us uh why we froze that sort of thing but still i mean you're not gonna be going up against the u.s government as a as a centralized crypto exchange based in the u.s right uh you can try i mean you can take them to court and things like that later on but in the heat of the moment especially during times like this yeah it's not going to work and then you know what happens if there's evidence of these countries that have been sanctioned using blockchains to get around the sanctions well the governments are not going to sit idly by and basically let that happen what they're going to do is they're going to do one of two things they're either going to realize that they can't

control ethereum and bitcoin or and this is probably the most likely outcome more likely outcome i should say they're going to try and control it they're going to try and see which ones they can control which ones they can shut down which ones they can block access to and to be honest i mean they can block access to ethereum and bitcoin by uh by ordering centralized exchanges to block withdrawals to those networks but that's the worst they can do there they can't overtake the network they can't force the the miners and in the future validators to censor transactions or anything like that um they're powerless there but that's for ethereum and bitcoin when it comes to other chains there are certain things they can do uh a lot of the dpos chains have a very small validator set and that can control the network that are based

in jurisdictions where these governments reside such as the us and europe so that's going to be the true test guys like that at the end of the day you don't know what's truly decentralized i think um and you can't really it's kind of like a you can't really prove it until these things kind of like uh show their their true colors to show that they have no clothes and i think we're gonna get to that point sooner rather than later um but yeah a little bit of a tangent there i guess but i think it's very very relevant to what we're seeing lately and i do think that uh people are going to realize more and more why decentralization matters at the end of the day all right so orbit of finance has another update today that they now support stock net on gurley so you can

choose starknet on alberto.finance and bridge starknet in to testnet so this is cool i mean i've been covering alberta recently but now they're kind of like supporting starknet girly and obviously as you guys know starknet is both on testnet and mainnet uh which is really really cool to see um but it's cool to see orbiter finance just like getting up there i mean i only started talking about these guys maybe two months ago or something like that they came out of kind of nowhere i mean i wonder when their twitter account was created okay queen of two karen was scared of january 2014 so it must have been repurposed there but i i don't think they've these guys have been around for very long so very cool to see them i guess they're still in alpha but very cool to see them adding networks really

quickly and and kind of like getting their name out there and it just it's just great to see more bridges coming online obviously as i've talked about there's a lot of risks using these sorts of things which which actually is a perfect segue into little cohen's threads today um little coleman kind of like works at as growth at hot protocol so he would know a thing or two about bridges but basically this is a threat about bridge security um and kind of like it's a really great thread it goes through kind of like what can happen the risks and the trade-offs and all that sort of stuff so i suggest reading this thread but you know since we saw the massive exploit with the the wormhole bridge there hasn't really been any other security incidents on bridges i've seen yet but don't let that give you a false sense of

security guys like that doesn't mean that these bridges are suddenly all super secure and everyone's funds are secure no you've got to keep your kind of wits about you especially when using newer protocols like orbit of finance which is still in alpha um you really need to realize that alpha doesn't mean hey ape your whole net worth into this bridge and you know uh kind of like uh yellow in and no that's not that's not kind of like how it works there you need to realize that alpha beta that they mean you know this is still kind of like uh very risky software this is still kind of like basically being tested right it's basically uh in the kind of like um maybe they're kind of like testing in prod so to speak on mainnet but still they shouldn't be treated as kind of like live uh uh kind of like um

you know super safe production software here and you know honestly most things in crypto shouldn't be treated as uh super safe or really safe software at the end of the day as i said to you guys plenty of times before every smart contract in existence has the possibility of having a bug in it even if it's one line of code can have a bug in it um and it's just kind of like a function of uh i guess like time as well like you know the funny thing is about the time thing i've had this discussion with many people before people kind of argue that the longer a smart contract has been around the longer you know a set of code has been around the safer it is i don't actually necessarily agree with that because there's been tons of examples of things in the web 2 world

that have existed for decades and then there's a massive bug found in it like a critical bug found in it you know 10 20 years later now if that's the case how do you kind of like trust any of this stuff well i mean there's kind of kind of insurance protocols out there that you can kind of take insurance against um you know maybe don't put like your whole net worth into one smart contract maybe spread out the risk say you're using kind of like three different yield farming uh protocols out there uh that's better than just putting all your funds into kind of like one because if that if one of them kind of gets hacked or something like that then uh you you kind of like are protected by by being the other two maybe your yield is less but i guess that's that's kind of like the trade-off

you take there and then the protocols themselves are having their own i guess like insurance funds too to cover any losses that they suffer so there are ways to kind of protect users but i don't think anyone should ever say that us a smart contract or any set of code is 100 secure 100 bug free it's just impossible to to make that assertion um and if you if you do say that and later it gets kind of like hacked or anything like that well maybe you had the hubris to not prepare for that and then the user funds are all gone so i think just taking all that into account guys i mean i know i've said before that one of the only protocols i kind of like trust with like a large amount of my net worth is um i guess like assets is is

maker and i've used it plenty of times before but even maker can could have a critical bug in it like i'm not saying it doesn't and you know i have obviously have a lot of my ether in in staking right now on the beacon chain that code has only been live for like a year and what three months at this point it's not super secure that you can't claim that it's like ultra secure you can't claim that it has like lindy or anything behind it but i'm well aware of those risks i take those risks and that's on me if anything happens um but i think this is true for basically every piece of code so just yeah just another friendly reminder for you guys to kind of like take precautions when using these sorts of things see what would happen if an exploit was to happen like um will you

be covered by the protocol itself is there kind of ways to take out insurance um how much would you stand to lose all these sorts of stuff so so yeah and definitely go give little collins thread about bridge security and bridges here uh a read i'll link it in the youtube description for you to do so so rocco from the spruce id team published a blog post today called why signing with ethereum is a game changer part one so i highly recommend giving this blog post to read obviously i'm not going to read it out on on the refuel as i said before sign in with ethereum on-chain identity all this sort of stuff about you know around kind of like this area is super important uh for i guess the um the growth of this industry you know i often say that i think

the two most important things that i uh that i'm most excited about to reach mass adoption are scaling and privacy if i had to pick a third it would be things like this right like on chain identity signing with ethereum because it's such a simple thing but it's such a powerful tool and i've explained why in previous episodes so i won't go through this again but i think you know as i've said before i'd much rather be able to sign in with ethereum to things rather than having to sign in with facebook or sign in with twitter or centralized service because you know you get portability interoperability composability all that good stuff that we're used to within d5 all without an intermediary all in this decentralized way and be able to kind of like carry our identity with us so a very cool uh thing

that you should give you know you should give this blog post to read to learn more about this how it works some of the technicals behind it as well and you know how it works on a technical level with signing messages and a friendly reminder again guys signing a message on ethereum does not cost gas fees that's another shitty narrative out there people actually believe that signing a message costs gas fees i mean you don't even have to believe anyone go sign a message on ethereum mainnet right now like go sign in with you know sign into something with with ethereum uh right now you don't have to it's just signed and that's it because all you're doing is signing a message using your private key you're not doing an on-chain transaction it's just so insane to me that these narratives persist and it's kind of like even more insane to me that

um the the the bad narratives for some reason are always the ones that are the most popular and it goes back to this old adage i don't know if if um andreas antonopoulos was the first one to say this uh but i've heard him say it plenty of times before is that kind of like um just tends to spread ten times faster than the truth and then you know trying to kind of like correct that is basically impossible from there so yeah anyway go give this blog post a read uh i'll link it in the youtube description for you to do so all right so finally here we have a call out from the ef ecosystem support program they put out a tweet saying calling all academics research centers phd students and others interested in researching ethereum we're excited to announce a new wave of 750 000 in grants

to fund formal ethereum related research uh learn more and submit your project proposals by 22nd of april in this blog post this is really cool it's more money going towards core ethereum research here which is always a good thing to see and this is coming directly from the ethereum foundation support program so if you're interested in this if this is something you know up your alley definitely go check out the blog post as i said the deadline for applying for these grants is april 22nd 2022 so you have about just over six weeks from now um but i'll link this in the youtube description for you to check out now i've got a few minutes left here so one last thing i wanted to talk about which is actually related to this was about research in general within crypto and how i think that ethereum has

obviously been the leader for quite a while now in terms of like bleeding edge research and the most interesting things coming out of the ethereum ecosystem and i think that's going to be the case for a long while but i do want to caution people from getting too kind of i guess like bottlenecked in things like you know i i don't think an echo chamber is the right word i i think people use the term echo chamber like in a really you know in a really wrong way these days they use it to deride people and say you know you're just like an echo champ you don't know what's going on around you it's like yeah okay i mean some people may be stuck in that but at the end of the day like if you're only interested in keeping up with what's happening in

ethereum uh and you're happy being in the ethereum echo chamber well i mean is that necessarily a bad thing like if you're happy if you're aware of it if you're just like whatever like i don't care about all the other stuff going on i'm happy in ethereum then that's totally fine as long as you're not kind of like spouting or deriding other ecosystems i mean the classic example of this is the bitcoin maximalists who definitely live in their own echo chamber but not only do they live in their echo chamber they also kind of like yell outside of it right they yell at the ethereum people they say theorem centralized they say it's a scam blah blah blah all that sort of stuff but if you just sit in ethereum land sort of like what i do and you're not there out there just spouting all

the off including other project scams and and kind of like saying that it's all worthless i think that's totally fine but in saying that there are interesting ideas out of other ecosystems that haven't come from ethereum right like as i said the vast majority of the coolest things that i've seen have been in the ethereum ecosystem but there are definitely ideas in other ecosystems that um that that are interesting and you know to i i've i've bashed salina a lot in the past but to solana's credit they're actually building a pretty decent execution layer now the reason i've bashed shelana in the past is because i don't think that that execution layer can work at uh quote-unquote layer one with their consensus engine i think they're gonna run into plenty of problems and they already have um and i don't think it's gonna scale to the world but i mean i

you know i i reckon celina can be a really great execution layer meaning it could be a really great layer too and doesn't even have to use ethereum as a cinnamon layer it could use any consensus engine that um it limits itself at layer one as a as a settlement kind of layout but at the end of the day we might we may see someone just fork solana make uh rip out the consensus and just kind of like settle it to ethereum and it'll be funny because what if it works better like i actually think objectively it would actually work better than the celina celana chain itself because of the fact that it's taking the modular approach instead of doing the monolithic approach but that's where credit should be drew like celina is a very different chain to ethereum they build things from the ground up

they're using rust instead instead of solidity they're doing a lot of you know different things out there but my problem with it has always been the thesis that you could scale everything at layer one i just don't think that's gonna work and we've already seen the pitfalls of that and not just um uh solana you know the terra ecosystem is quite interesting with what they're doing with stablecoin with ust i know a lot of people call it a ponzi and all that sort of stuff but you know the longer it sticks around the longer it actually works maybe it maybe it ends up working maybe we're all we're i mean i haven't called it a ponzi but maybe people are all wrong about that like i don't know but that's another interesting thing that's happening there that's not happening in ethereum and you know there are some

pockets here and there are other things going on but there's not i mean not really i mean some like a lot of the other l1s are just like evm clones they're not very very interesting and as i said the vast majority of interesting stuff is still happening on ethereum but you know if you're if you don't want to be in a quote-unquote like echo chamber and you're not happy being in an echo chamber you want to kind of like expand a little bit i would recommend going and viewing and going and kind of like looking into these other ecosystems to see what they've got going on but as i said most of it is not interesting but there are pockets there and you don't have to like go out and buy the tokens either if you don't want to it's not like you have to basically

go all in on the ecosystems or whatever but essentially what you can do is you can just check out what they've got going on and then you can see okay well is there anything like this going on in ethereum you know why not is it is it can i can i bring it to ethereum you know can i do something here just just a cool thing to do i i think um but uh you know and i i've been doing this for for a while now it's not a new thing for me i mean it's funny because i always get called an ethmaxy and i can bet you know i can bet you that i know more about the a lot of the l1 ecosystems that than their biggest fans do because i do keep up with them just not you know day to day

in the detail in the weeds but i do keep up with what they're doing to see if anything's actually you know innovative and to be honest guys like i don't think any of the stuff that the other l1 are doing with regards to scaling is innovative at all i think all the scaling innovation is happening basically on ethereum coupled with like the l2 stuff and the modular stack and obviously there's other chains that aren't out yet like celestia which is doing interesting things and probably going to vale and stuff like that but but yeah i mean as i said always good to branch out but uh but yeah i mean on my end i haven't seen like anything too interesting but there are pockets out there which are worth researching but i think on that note i'm going to leave it at that for today so thank

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